Saints Versus Playoff Contenders

WHODATINCA · 12-20-2013, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by whybag

I hear the Falcons fanbase needs some bodies, you kinda sound like a fit.

I'm assuming you are directing this at Nola54, since, obviously, my comments were meant sarcastically.

CoreyO · 12-21-2013, 12:27 AM

Originally Posted by NOLA54

We should stop fooling ourselves about this team. They are not who we thought they were. I don't see how we get anything better than 5th seed. Which means we are on the road and therefore one & done.

Why do you even waste your time on this site? Have some confidence in your team, anything can be fixed

whybag · 12-21-2013, 01:19 AM

Originally Posted by WHODATINCA

I'm assuming you are directing this at Nola54, since, obviously, my comments were meant sarcastically.

Of course.

SaintsBro · 12-21-2013, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

best road record in the nfl since SP arrived in NO. there is something a miss thats all

Actually the Patriots have the best road record in the NFL since 2006, not the Saints. Saints do have the best road record counting arbitrarily since 2009, but right now the Patriots are only back by 1 game from that, and could possibly tie on Sunday. On an individual basis, coach Bill Bellichick (and Tom Brady) have the best career road record in the NFL right now, not Payton and Brees.

Danno · 12-21-2013, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Actually the Patriots have the best road record in the NFL since 2006, not the Saints. Saints do have the best road record counting arbitrarily since 2009, but right now the Patriots are only back by 1 game from that, and could possibly tie on Sunday. On an individual basis, coach Bill Bellichick (and Tom Brady) have the best career road record in the NFL right now, not Payton and Brees.

True, but it helps to have a very bad Buffalo, Miami and NY team on your schedule during that span.

Falcons, Panthers, and Bucs >>> Bills, Fins, and Jets

SaintsBro · 12-21-2013, 01:22 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

True, but it helps to have a very bad Buffalo, Miami and NY team on your schedule during that span.

Falcons, Panthers, and Bucs >>> Bills, Fins, and Jets

Oh I'm not arguing with anybody about that, good point. But he said "best road record in the NFL since Payton got here" and that's just not true. That's all I meant. I'm not claiming the Saints aren't really good...but I've noticed a trend around here lately, of people throwing around a lot of "better than Seattle" and "Better than the Patriots" or "best team at XYZ" type stuff lately, about the Saints, and some of the stuff that people have been saying or claiming about them, is not always factually the case. That's all I meant.

CoreyO · 12-21-2013, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

Oh I'm not arguing with anybody about that, good point. But he said "best road record in the NFL since Payton got here" and that's just not true. That's all I meant. I'm not claiming the Saints aren't really good...but I've noticed a trend around here lately, of people throwing around a lot of "better than Seattle" and "Better than the Patriots" or "best team at XYZ" type stuff lately, about the Saints, and some of the stuff that people have been saying or claiming about them, is not always factually the case. That's all I meant.

Are you counting 2012? Because i think without 12 we do have the best record payton was absent so our record doesnt count in that catagory

SaintsBro · 12-21-2013, 09:14 PM

So let me get this straight -- if you don't count Payton's two bad years that he was close to .500 (2007 and 2008) and if you don't count the year he was suspended, then he has the "best road record in the NFL," compared to other teams and coaches in only those four arbitrary non-continuous years you've picked? Ignoring all the other years? That's a weird record to brag about. Sounds to me more like the Saints have the "best" road record in the NFL, only when you're cherry picking the years you want to count. Suit yourself.

If you want to roll with that explanation, of "best in the NFL" (except not counting some games), and ignoring the mediocre road performance of this team over the last two years, fine. Just don't expect many people besides yourself to be impressed.

To the REST of the world, who live in reality, the Patriots have the best road record over the span since Sean Payton has been a head coach. Few people would dispute this.

CoreyO · 12-21-2013, 10:29 PM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

So let me get this straight -- if you don't count Payton's two bad years that he was close to .500 (2007 and 2008) and if you don't count the year he was suspended, then he has the "best road record in the NFL," compared to other teams and coaches in only those four arbitrary non-continuous years you've picked? Ignoring all the other years? That's a weird record to brag about. Sounds to me more like the Saints have the "best" road record in the NFL, only when you're cherry picking the years you want to count. Suit yourself.

If you want to roll with that explanation, of "best in the NFL" (except not counting some games), and ignoring the mediocre road performance of this team over the last two years, fine. Just don't expect many people besides yourself to be impressed.

To the REST of the world, who live in reality, the Patriots have the best road record over the span since Sean Payton has been a head coach. Few people would dispute this.

Im not saying pick the years its just last year he wasn't our coach so you cant say the Payton-Brees era if you include 2012 you would be inferring to the record since 06.

SaintsBro · 12-23-2013, 03:04 PM

Well, the Saints are now tied with the Patriots for the "best road record since 2009" at 24-16. The Patriots last night, completely dismantled the defending Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens on the road, 41-7, in cold weather in Baltimore. The Saints and Pats may be tied in road record, but is there really any doubt who is the better road team now? Over a quarter of the Saints' road wins in that 24 total are from one year, 2009, which was five years ago.

12-20-2013, 10:41 PM	#21
WHODATINCA Site Donor Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: South Bay Posts: 3,784	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by whybag I hear the Falcons fanbase needs some bodies, you kinda sound like a fit. I'm assuming you are directing this at Nola54, since, obviously, my comments were meant sarcastically.

12-21-2013, 12:27 AM	#22
CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by NOLA54 We should stop fooling ourselves about this team. They are not who we thought they were. I don't see how we get anything better than 5th seed. Which means we are on the road and therefore one & done. Why do you even waste your time on this site? Have some confidence in your team, anything can be fixed exile likes this.
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whybag 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by WHODATINCA I'm assuming you are directing this at Nola54, since, obviously, my comments were meant sarcastically. Of course.
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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by hagan714 best road record in the nfl since SP arrived in NO. there is something a miss thats all Actually the Patriots have the best road record in the NFL since 2006, not the Saints. Saints do have the best road record counting arbitrarily since 2009, but right now the Patriots are only back by 1 game from that, and could possibly tie on Sunday. On an individual basis, coach Bill Bellichick (and Tom Brady) have the best career road record in the NFL right now, not Payton and Brees.

12-21-2013, 10:26 AM	#25
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by SaintsBro Actually the Patriots have the best road record in the NFL since 2006, not the Saints. Saints do have the best road record counting arbitrarily since 2009, but right now the Patriots are only back by 1 game from that, and could possibly tie on Sunday. On an individual basis, coach Bill Bellichick (and Tom Brady) have the best career road record in the NFL right now, not Payton and Brees. True, but it helps to have a very bad Buffalo, Miami and NY team on your schedule during that span. Falcons, Panthers, and Bucs >>> Bills, Fins, and Jets

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SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by Danno True, but it helps to have a very bad Buffalo, Miami and NY team on your schedule during that span. Falcons, Panthers, and Bucs >>> Bills, Fins, and Jets Oh I'm not arguing with anybody about that, good point. But he said "best road record in the NFL since Payton got here" and that's just not true. That's all I meant. I'm not claiming the Saints aren't really good...but I've noticed a trend around here lately, of people throwing around a lot of "better than Seattle" and "Better than the Patriots" or "best team at XYZ" type stuff lately, about the Saints, and some of the stuff that people have been saying or claiming about them, is not always factually the case. That's all I meant. Danno likes this.
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12-21-2013, 03:33 PM	#27
CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by SaintsBro Oh I'm not arguing with anybody about that, good point. But he said "best road record in the NFL since Payton got here" and that's just not true. That's all I meant. I'm not claiming the Saints aren't really good...but I've noticed a trend around here lately, of people throwing around a lot of "better than Seattle" and "Better than the Patriots" or "best team at XYZ" type stuff lately, about the Saints, and some of the stuff that people have been saying or claiming about them, is not always factually the case. That's all I meant. Are you counting 2012? Because i think without 12 we do have the best record payton was absent so our record doesnt count in that catagory
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12-21-2013, 09:14 PM	#28
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders So let me get this straight -- if you don't count Payton's two bad years that he was close to .500 (2007 and 2008) and if you don't count the year he was suspended, then he has the "best road record in the NFL," compared to other teams and coaches in only those four arbitrary non-continuous years you've picked? Ignoring all the other years? That's a weird record to brag about. Sounds to me more like the Saints have the "best" road record in the NFL, only when you're cherry picking the years you want to count. Suit yourself. If you want to roll with that explanation, of "best in the NFL" (except not counting some games), and ignoring the mediocre road performance of this team over the last two years, fine. Just don't expect many people besides yourself to be impressed. To the REST of the world, who live in reality, the Patriots have the best road record over the span since Sean Payton has been a head coach. Few people would dispute this.

12-21-2013, 10:29 PM	#29
CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Originally Posted by SaintsBro So let me get this straight -- if you don't count Payton's two bad years that he was close to .500 (2007 and 2008) and if you don't count the year he was suspended, then he has the "best road record in the NFL," compared to other teams and coaches in only those four arbitrary non-continuous years you've picked? Ignoring all the other years? That's a weird record to brag about. Sounds to me more like the Saints have the "best" road record in the NFL, only when you're cherry picking the years you want to count. Suit yourself. If you want to roll with that explanation, of "best in the NFL" (except not counting some games), and ignoring the mediocre road performance of this team over the last two years, fine. Just don't expect many people besides yourself to be impressed. To the REST of the world, who live in reality, the Patriots have the best road record over the span since Sean Payton has been a head coach. Few people would dispute this. Im not saying pick the years its just last year he wasn't our coach so you cant say the Payton-Brees era if you include 2012 you would be inferring to the record since 06.
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12-23-2013, 03:04 PM	#30
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Versus Playoff Contenders Well, the Saints are now tied with the Patriots for the "best road record since 2009" at 24-16. The Patriots last night, completely dismantled the defending Super Bowl champion Baltimore Ravens on the road, 41-7, in cold weather in Baltimore. The Saints and Pats may be tied in road record, but is there really any doubt who is the better road team now? Over a quarter of the Saints' road wins in that 24 total are from one year, 2009, which was five years ago.

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