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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by SaintsBro I agree with the rest of your post, but this ^^^ I'm surprised you're falling for that line, Oak. That's just more Payton speak, he's been lying to us and the league, he's been masking/hiding flaws ...

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Old 12-17-2013, 09:25 AM   #7
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Re: Key to winning games? Jimmy Graham.

Originally Posted by SaintsBro View Post
I agree with the rest of your post, but this ^^^ I'm surprised you're falling for that line, Oak. That's just more Payton speak, he's been lying to us and the league, he's been masking/hiding flaws in this team all year by saying things like that on the podium. The truth is that in most of the games we've lost, Graham has been shut down, essentially invisible, a non-factor, and the offense suffers. And that was done by several teams that don't have a Talib, not just once. Seattle does not have Talib....the Rams do not have Talib.....I could go on but mercifully I'll stop.

Maybe he is playing hurt, in fact I'm sure he is... I could certainly buy into that, but it still doesn't seem to stop him from scoring 2 touchdowns and playing lights out Jimmy football some weeks (usually at home) and then disappearing completely in others.

You have to be wearing black and gold goggles at this point to try and argue that he is not getting shut down by teams that "don't have a Talib." Exhibit A, 2nd half Seattle.
No need to go getting all personal.

Your argument proved my point. Talib man on man shut Jimmy graham down by him self. Name another defensive back that did it alone and caused us to lose.

Graham had no TDs against Chicago... We won.
Graham had no TDs against SF... We won.
Graham had no TDs against Dallas... We won.

Of course any team can put 3 men on Jimmy all night and shut him down, but that is not the blueprint to winning, Drew just uses other weapons.

With out a Talib that can do it 1 on 1 the answer is not the same. And the blue-print of shutting down Jimmy Graham being the key to victory is flawed.

Seattle didn't shut him down he had 1 TD
The Jets didnt shut him down he had 2 TDs
St Louis kept Jimmy out of the endzone but Drew threw for nearly 400 yards.

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