Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 561272)

I thought early on that special teams play will determine how far we get in the playoffs.

I am not sad to see him go one single bit. He made 2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year and thats the ONLY reason hes been around this long. He has ridden on the coat tails of those kicks ever since. That goes for any player, like Vilma. I dont care how far your play gets us, when your done producing you should be gone and replaced by someone who can. Screw this "Oh we owe him because he helped us get to the Super Bowl jibber jabber. I will say the same thing with Brees when his time comes. When it comes time where someone else can do a better job then see ya. Thankfully that wont be for a long long time.

Doesnt mean I dont apprieciate what they have done, but if we arent constantly trying to get better at every position, every year, we wont get back to where we want to be.

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 561285)

2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year? I can think of half a dozen off the top of my head:

1.The kick that sent the NFCC game to OT
2. The kick that WON the NFCC game
3. The Ambush kick in the Super Bowl
4. The 3 40+ yd FGs he made that kept the Saints in the game and also set a Super Bowl record.

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 (Post 561288)

3 was moorestead

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 561232)

Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 561285)

2 decent kicks our Super Bowl year? I can think of half a dozen off the top of my head:

1.The kick that sent the NFCC game to OT
2. The kick that WON the NFCC game
3. The Ambush kick in the Super Bowl
4. The 3 40+ yd FGs he made that kept the Saints in the game and also set a Super Bowl record.

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 561155)

Wow, I'm showing my age but I can't resist...

Homie don't play!