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QBREES9 12-17-2013 04:31 PM

Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED]
 
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Sean Payton has run out of patience in Garrett Hartley.


The Saints waived Hartley on Tuesday, ending the kicker's six-year tenure in New Orleans. Hartley had been a disappointment this season, making just 22-of-30 field goal attempts. The final straw came Sunday, when Hartley missed two of three kicks in a 27-16 loss to the St. Louis Rams.

Fox Sports 1's Mike Garafolo reported the team will sign veteran kicker Shayne Graham to replace Hartley.

A frustrated Payton hinted a shake-up could be coming after a second loss in three weeks. The team also waived cornerback Chris Carr.

Hartley's job had been in danger for some time. In November, the Saints worked out five kickers, including Graham and Neil Rackers, before making the decision to stand pat.

Hartley will always have a special place in franchise history as the kicker for the team's lone Super Bowl champion. His 40-yard field goal ended an NFC Championship Game classic against the Minnesota Vikings in 2010.

If Graham is the guy, he'll go directly into the fire. The Saints will visit the Carolina Panthers on Sunday in a showdown that could decide the NFC South.

Garrett Hartley waived by New Orleans Saints - NFL.com

exile 12-17-2013 04:59 PM

Hartley Released
 
Just heard. Feel free to merge.

The Dude 12-17-2013 05:02 PM

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Yep got the text. Any word on replacement.

WhoDat!656 12-17-2013 05:10 PM

Re: Hartley Released
 
Chris Carr gone too.

Think Payton has their attention?!

New Orleans Saints waive kicker Garrett Hartley | NOLA.com

WhoDatFan26 12-17-2013 05:10 PM

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Garrett Hartley and Chris Carr to be exact. No word on replacements as of yet.

Papa Voodoo 12-17-2013 05:13 PM

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Sweeting? Carr isn't that good, but I don't think he was expected to be. That one smells like one of those Parcells cuts. It has to be Rackers or Graham.

TheOak 12-17-2013 05:14 PM

Re: Hartley Released
 
I'm curious, what's the fan line?


Hartley should have been kept and allowed to kick until he made FGs.

or

In Sean Payton we trust.

ScottF 12-17-2013 05:15 PM

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Why was Carr cut?
is it it to get a pro-rated (2 game) vet kicker under the cap?

Papa Voodoo 12-17-2013 05:16 PM

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Aside from the SB run Hartley has given everyone the red ass. That miss vs. Atlanta a couple of seasons ago is when enough was enough.

WhoDat!656 12-17-2013 05:17 PM

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Instant lifetime ban for whoever posts a "shouldn't have released Hartley" thread when the new kicker costs the Saints a game!

AliJee 12-17-2013 05:18 PM

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They actually did it? Has this been confirmed? Speculations on the next kicker?

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Danno 12-17-2013 05:21 PM

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Wow, I'm showing my age but I can't resist...

Homie don't play!

ScottF 12-17-2013 05:23 PM

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Rackers, Graham, or Dimke?
good FF pickup for the playoffs, anyway

73Saint 12-17-2013 05:26 PM

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Headcase Hartley. Was bound to happen. Something major wrong w/ that dude....

Danno 12-17-2013 05:27 PM

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Lets face it, if the new guy sucks worse we can re-sign Hartley. Its not like anyone's gonna pick him up.

TheOak 12-17-2013 05:36 PM

Hartley Released
 
Good luck Hartley where ever you land. No matter how it went, I think you gave us the best you could muster.

I truly hate to see anyone lose their job. Much less 9 days before Christmas.

Now... I feel for you; but I'm not all choked up. You made $7 Million as a Saint, and no matter how the FG kicks go for the rest of the season..... My shocks will come if they are missed, not if they are made.

B_Dub_Saint 12-17-2013 05:37 PM

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Bout time

WhoDat!656 12-17-2013 05:37 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 561149)
Why was Carr cut?
is it it to get a pro-rated (2 game) vet kicker under the cap?

Maybe a new LT is going to be signed; not sure if we have one on the PS that could be brought up.

Danno 12-17-2013 05:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 561167)
Maybe a new LT is going to be signed; not sure if we have one on the PS that could be brought up.

My thinking as well.

Bring up Marcel Jones for depth if Strief has to replace an ineffective Brown at LT.

ScottF 12-17-2013 05:42 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 561168)
My thinking as well.

Bring up Marcel Jones for depth if Strief has to replace an ineffective Brown at LT.

pick one:

Offensive Tackle
Jammal Brown (RT/LT)
Jared Gaither (LT)
Demetress Bell (LT)
Max Starks (LT)
Frank Omiyale (RT/LT/G)
Wayne Hunter (LT)
Jeremy Bridges (RT/G)
Jason Smith (RT, LT)
Brandyn Dombrowski (RT)
Barry Richardson (RT)
Jordan Black (RT)
D’Anthony Batiste (RT, LT)
Brandon Keith (RT)
Pat McQuistan (RT)
Tony Hills (RT)
Ramon Harewood (RT)
Willie Smith (LT)
Patrick Brown (RT)
Ed Wang (LT)
William Robinson (RT/LT)
Lee Ziemba (RT)

who's that first guy???

Best Available NFL Free Agents - Offense | The Sideline View

Beastmode 12-17-2013 05:43 PM

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Have to win this game. It's not any more complicated than that so no hard feelings.

Danno 12-17-2013 05:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 561172)
pick one:

Offensive Tackle
Jammal Brown (RT/LT)
Jared Gaither (LT)
Demetress Bell (LT)
Max Starks (LT)
Frank Omiyale (RT/LT/G)
Wayne Hunter (LT)
Jeremy Bridges (RT/G)
Jason Smith (RT, LT)
Brandyn Dombrowski (RT)
Barry Richardson (RT)
Jordan Black (RT)
D’Anthony Batiste (RT, LT)
Brandon Keith (RT)
Pat McQuistan (RT)
Tony Hills (RT)
Ramon Harewood (RT)
Willie Smith (LT)
Patrick Brown (RT)
Ed Wang (LT)
William Robinson (RT/LT)
Lee Ziemba (RT)

who's that first guy???

Best Available NFL Free Agents - Offense | The Sideline View

Much more concerned with this list...

Kicker
Neil Rackers
Shayne Graham
Olindo Mare
Dave Rayner
Justin Medlock
David Buehler
Rhys Lloyd
Garrett Lindholm
Havard Rugland
Derek Dimke

WhoDat!656 12-17-2013 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 561174)
Much more concerned with this list...

Kicker
Neil Rackers
Shayne Graham
Olindo Mare
Dave Rayner
Justin Medlock
David Buehler
Rhys Lloyd
Garrett Lindholm
Havard Rugland
Derek Dimke

Can eliminate Mare; been there, done that

TheOak 12-17-2013 05:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 561172)
pick one:



Offensive Tackle

Jammal Brown (RT/LT)

Jared Gaither (LT)

Demetress Bell (LT)

Max Starks (LT)

Frank Omiyale (RT/LT/G)

Wayne Hunter (LT)

Jeremy Bridges (RT/G)

Jason Smith (RT, LT)

Brandyn Dombrowski (RT)

Barry Richardson (RT)

Jordan Black (RT)

D’Anthony Batiste (RT, LT)

Brandon Keith (RT)

Pat McQuistan (RT)

Tony Hills (RT)

Ramon Harewood (RT)

Willie Smith (LT)

Patrick Brown (RT)

Ed Wang (LT)

William Robinson (RT/LT)

Lee Ziemba (RT)



who's that first guy???



Best Available NFL Free Agents - Offense | The Sideline View


Wang definitely!

First Saints Jersey I would buy.

ScottF 12-17-2013 05:47 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 561175)
Can eliminate Mare; been there, done that

first, second and last were in NO today- would be surprised if it wasn't one of those 3

Srgt. Hulka 12-17-2013 05:54 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Srgt. Hulka (Post 560751)
I bet we don't see Hartly in another Saints game, maybe not even in a Saints uniform. I think he's toast. Especially after that record breaking shank he pulled in the 4th quarter. If Sean Payton puts Hartley back in on Sunday against the Panthers, I will start questioning Seans decision making.

Told ya... http://www.ar15armory.com/forums/pub...ult/segrin.gif

Jack Vegas 12-17-2013 05:56 PM

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Yeah, about time. Sign up Graham, he'll be fine. Always been a good kicker.

RaginCajun83 12-17-2013 05:57 PM

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Took Sean long enough, that space cadet should have been cut the next day after he had missed that chip shot against Atlanta a couple years ago

RaginCajun83 12-17-2013 05:58 PM

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I wouldn't mind Rackers or Graham

K Major 12-17-2013 06:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 561174)
Much more concerned with this list...

Kicker
Neil Rackers
Shayne Graham

Yep...

9thWardDesire 12-17-2013 06:05 PM

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D_it_up 12-17-2013 06:06 PM

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Thanks for the memories, Hartley!

Danno 12-17-2013 06:08 PM

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Carr will likely return at some point. He a roster shuffle regular.

Hartley? Probably not.

Danno 12-17-2013 06:09 PM

Saints Sign K Shayne Graham
 
@MikeTriplett: RT @MikeGarafolo: Saints will sign veteran K Shayne Graham to replace Garrett Hartley, who was cut today.

NonieT 12-17-2013 06:13 PM

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@MikeTriplett: RT @MikeGarafolo: Saints will sign veteran K Shayne Graham to replace Garrett Hartley, who was cut today.

m.twitter.com/MikeTriplett

Boutte 12-17-2013 06:16 PM

Re: Saints Sign K Shayne Graham
 
What's his track record? Why didn't he have a job?

Danno 12-17-2013 06:20 PM

Re: Saints Sign K Shayne Graham
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Boutte (Post 561196)
What's his track record? Why didn't he have a job?

He can't hit the 50 yarders anymore, but is accurate inside 50.

WhoDat!656 12-17-2013 06:22 PM

Re: Saints Sign K Shayne Graham
 
Shayne Graham: Career Stats at NFL.com

hagan714 12-17-2013 06:26 PM

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inside of 40 he pretty automatic his entire career. the main thing is he get the ball up quickly

shame wish Hartley the best. he never was the same after his hip injury.

now the bad getting the timing down.

lsusaint912 12-17-2013 06:30 PM

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Even though he has struggled alot here... Ok for awhile now.. I will never forget the kick that sent us to a superbowl..I jumped up and felt some discomfort after about the 6th jump... yep sprained ankle missed a week a work that sucker hurt lol.. Appreciate the kicks he made plenty of them sadly he missed some important ones.. Payton is sending messages step up or step out.. I like it

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