Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED]

WhoDat!656 · 12-17-2013, 06:58 PM

I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream.

Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand.

Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

Boutte · 12-17-2013, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream.

Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand.

Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

The guy was a disaster. Anything under 40 yards and you were out of his range. You can't go into the playoffs with a kicker who can't hit a 25 yd FG.

Graham is 85% over his career.

Halo · 12-17-2013, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream.

Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand.

Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

Remember the Green Bay game............

WhoDat!656 · 12-17-2013, 07:10 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

Remember the Green Bay game............

The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard?

Halo · 12-17-2013, 10:22 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard?

No, that was 2011. In 2012, we lost to the Packers in Lambeau and Hartley missed the game winner wide left.

papz · 12-17-2013, 07:12 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream.

Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand.

Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

Well lucky for us Hartley isn't a horse and we're not standing in the middle of a stream.

WhoDat!656 · 12-17-2013, 07:27 PM

Originally Posted by papz

Well lucky for us Hartley isn't a horse and we're not standing in the middle of a stream.

No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked.

Our QB throws an interception on his 1st pass of the game and later throws another into triple coverage.

We throw on 1st down so often that Helen Keller and Ray Charles can see it coming.

Some of the losses and close games are because of Payton's 'mad scientist' mentality.

Srgt. Hulka · 12-17-2013, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked.

The second kick was NOT blocked! He shanked the crap out of it. It never touched the defender's hand. I'm going to try to find some video of it.

CoreyO · 12-17-2013, 07:38 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked.

Our QB throws an interception on his 1st pass of the game and later throws another into triple coverage.

We throw on 1st down so often that Helen Keller and Ray Charles can see it coming.

Some of the losses and close games are because of Payton's 'mad scientist' mentality.

I dont blame Drew for that first pic whatsoever, the second yea, but if he would of just threw the ball away he was still in the pocket and that results in safety get sacked safety he had no other choice the Oline got blown to sh*t on that play

WhoDat!656 · 12-17-2013, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by CoreyO

I dont blame Drew for that first pic whatsoever, the second yea, but if he would of just threw the ball away he was still in the pocket and that results in safety get sacked safety he had no other choice the Oline got blown to sh*t on that play

I would rather Drew take the safety than throw that interception.

12-17-2013, 06:58 PM	#1
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,092	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream. Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand. Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17.

12-17-2013, 07:04 PM	#2
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream. Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand. Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17. The guy was a disaster. Anything under 40 yards and you were out of his range. You can't go into the playoffs with a kicker who can't hit a 25 yd FG. Graham is 85% over his career. AlaskaSaints likes this.

12-17-2013, 07:06 PM	#3
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,900 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream. Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand. Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17. Remember the Green Bay game............

12-17-2013, 07:10 PM	#4
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,092	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by Halo Remember the Green Bay game............ The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard?

12-17-2013, 10:22 PM	#5
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,900 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The one we lost because Ingram couldn't get a yard? No, that was 2011. In 2012, we lost to the Packers in Lambeau and Hartley missed the game winner wide left. jeanpierre likes this.

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papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,793	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 I have never been a big fan of changing horses in the middle of the stream. Other than the loss to the failclowns a couple years ago that so many LOVE to harp about, how many games have the Saints lost because of missed FGs? Probably could count them on one hand. Even if Hartley made his 2 kicks Sunday, that is only 6 points and the Saints lost by 17. Well lucky for us Hartley isn't a horse and we're not standing in the middle of a stream. jeanpierre likes this.

12-17-2013, 07:27 PM	#7
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,092	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by papz Well lucky for us Hartley isn't a horse and we're not standing in the middle of a stream. No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked. Our QB throws an interception on his 1st pass of the game and later throws another into triple coverage. We throw on 1st down so often that Helen Keller and Ray Charles can see it coming. Some of the losses and close games are because of Payton's 'mad scientist' mentality.

12-17-2013, 07:31 PM	#8
Srgt. Hulka 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Shreveport, LA Posts: 4,417	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked. The second kick was NOT blocked! He shanked the crap out of it. It never touched the defender's hand. I'm going to try to find some video of it. frydaddy likes this.

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CoreyO 500th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 550	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 No, We are in the final quarter of the regular season and we cut our kicker because he had a couple kicks blocked. Our QB throws an interception on his 1st pass of the game and later throws another into triple coverage. We throw on 1st down so often that Helen Keller and Ray Charles can see it coming. Some of the losses and close games are because of Payton's 'mad scientist' mentality. I dont blame Drew for that first pic whatsoever, the second yea, but if he would of just threw the ball away he was still in the pocket and that results in safety get sacked safety he had no other choice the Oline got blown to sh*t on that play Boutte likes this.
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12-17-2013, 07:44 PM	#10
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,092	Re: Hartley waived and Shayne Graham Signed [MERGED] Originally Posted by CoreyO I dont blame Drew for that first pic whatsoever, the second yea, but if he would of just threw the ball away he was still in the pocket and that results in safety get sacked safety he had no other choice the Oline got blown to sh*t on that play I would rather Drew take the safety than throw that interception.

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