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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by mony_b22 I've never trusted Brown in any scenario. ^^ This is why I believe Payton did that crazy move with yanking Brown and shifting Strief over, who apparently hadn't played a snap on that side in years, ...

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Old 12-18-2013, 10:08 AM   #1
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Re: Robert Quin (Rams DE) Bushrod vs Brown

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I've never trusted Brown in any scenario.
^^ This is why I believe Payton did that crazy move with yanking Brown and shifting Strief over, who apparently hadn't played a snap on that side in years, so suddenly in the middle of a game, with no planning. Payton just couldn't trust Brown with Drew anymore. Zach Strief, whatever people here may think of him or his skill level, Payton knows him, and knows he can trust him. He is a known quantity and Payton knows that Strief gets the "do your job" and "next man up" ethos. It became like a "who do you want in your foxhole" decision.

It's similar to the one or two times when they've put Jimmy Graham out there on defense on a Hail Mary at the end of the game. It's not his position, but at the end of the day, Payton trusts him more than he trusts some backup third string safety, to make a grab or bust a ball up in the end zone.
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Re: Robert Quin (Rams DE) Bushrod vs Brown

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^^ This is why I believe Payton did that crazy move with yanking Brown and shifting Strief over, who apparently hadn't played a snap on that side in years, so suddenly in the middle of a game, with no planning. Payton just couldn't trust Brown with Drew anymore. Zach Strief, whatever people here may think of him or his skill level, Payton knows him, and knows he can trust him. He is a known quantity and Payton knows that Strief gets the "do your job" and "next man up" ethos. It became like a "who do you want in your foxhole" decision.

It's similar to the one or two times when they've put Jimmy Graham out there on defense on a Hail Mary at the end of the game. It's not his position, but at the end of the day, Payton trusts him more than he trusts some backup third string safety, to make a grab or bust a ball up in the end zone.
Penalties are all mental and clearly Browns head was in a funk... This is why I think payton replaced him with Strief. Not looking to get better play against the leagues best DE but to get the same play with out the drive and momentum killing penalties.
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Penalties are all mental and clearly Browns head was in a funk... This is why I think payton replaced him with Strief. Not looking to get better play against the leagues best DE but to get the same play with out the drive and momentum killing penalties.
Are you saying all penalties are mental or just pre snap? Cause I don't think all penalties are mental. It can be anywhere from bad technique to flat out getting beat and doing what you can do and hope u don't get caught. In that game, it was all the above.
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Are you saying all penalties are mental or just pre snap? Cause I don't think all penalties are mental. It can be anywhere from bad technique to flat out getting beat and doing what you can do and hope u don't get caught. In that game, it was all the above.
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