Payton and Brees post game live

Danno · 12-23-2013, 11:29 AM

Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem.

Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him.

Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be.

Here's where we screwed up...
2014 salaries
Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion.
Smith 13.9 million
Evans 11 million
Grubbs 9.1 million
Bunkley 6.1 million
Greer 5.8 million
Harper 5.8 million
Lofton 5.2 million
Moore 5 million
Sproles 4.5 million

hagan714 · 12-23-2013, 11:35 AM

i not saying it was but the planning was. like you pointed out veteran contracts were killers and will be still. youth needed to deal with the cap issues is mighty thin. thats my point

the over all picture was and still is a mess. we need another year before i can see thing working out cap wise.

dizzle88 · 12-23-2013, 11:41 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem.

Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him.

Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be.

Here's where we screwed up...
2014 salaries
Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion.
Smith 13.9 million
Evans 11 million
Grubbs 9.1 million
Bunkley 6.1 million
Greer 5.8 million
Harper 5.8 million
Lofton 5.2 million
Moore 5 million
Sproles 4.5 million

Players I see gone or restructuring next season

Danno · 12-23-2013, 11:42 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Players I see gone or restructring next season

I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut.

dizzle88 · 12-23-2013, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut.

I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot

Danno · 12-23-2013, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot

I think there's an NFL rule about restructuring too many times. I've heard several people say that the following year (2015) is the year he restructures.

Kryptonite · 12-23-2013, 12:29 PM

Yes, every aspect of the offense has sucked badly for the past several weeks. And in the earlier losses it was the offense that let us down also. Even in the loss to Seattle giving up as many points has we did, the offense showed up on only one possession. But to try to put the blame on Brees' contract is a bit of a reach to me. Ok, yeah it may have prevented us from signing "big time" OL free agents, etc, but guess what? If you are an OL, I need you to do OL sh*t. If you are an LB I need you to do LB sh*t! If you are a WR I need you to do WR sh*t! They are all professionals, and you may not be the best in the business but gosh dang it act like you know the business. DO SOMETHING!!!!

UK_WhoDat · 12-23-2013, 01:09 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Anyone else kinda tired of seeing our players try to juke everybody for zero yards instead of trying to plow upfield for 4 or 5 more yards?

You don't juke one of the fastest LB corps in the NFL. You cut up-field and take what you can get.

True.

We so telegraph our intended running plays too.

exile · 12-23-2013, 02:16 PM

Time to light it up.

12-23-2013, 11:29 AM	#11
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem. Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him. Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be. Here's where we screwed up... 2014 salaries Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion. Smith 13.9 million Evans 11 million Grubbs 9.1 million Bunkley 6.1 million Greer 5.8 million Harper 5.8 million Lofton 5.2 million Moore 5 million Sproles 4.5 million

12-23-2013, 11:35 AM	#12
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Payton and Brees post game live i not saying it was but the planning was. like you pointed out veteran contracts were killers and will be still. youth needed to deal with the cap issues is mighty thin. thats my point the over all picture was and still is a mess. we need another year before i can see thing working out cap wise.

12-23-2013, 11:41 AM	#13
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Originally Posted by Danno Brees' contract wasn't the problem. Too much money tied up in Smith, Vilma and Harper was the problem. Without those 3 big contracts we probably keep Nicks, or likely franchised him. Brees is the 4th highest paid QB, which is just about where he should be. Here's where we screwed up... 2014 salaries Some are still good players, but overpaid in my opinion. Smith 13.9 million Evans 11 million Grubbs 9.1 million Bunkley 6.1 million Greer 5.8 million Harper 5.8 million Lofton 5.2 million Moore 5 million Sproles 4.5 million Players I see gone or restructuring next season

12-23-2013, 11:42 AM	#14
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Originally Posted by dizzle88 Players I see gone or restructring next season I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut.

12-23-2013, 11:44 AM	#15
dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,358	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Originally Posted by Danno I think every player on that list should be restructured or cut. I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot

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12-23-2013, 11:50 AM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Originally Posted by dizzle88 I think brees needs to help out and restructure aswell, he would free up a hell of a lot I think there's an NFL rule about restructuring too many times. I've heard several people say that the following year (2015) is the year he restructures.

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Kryptonite DAMMIT BOY! Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Crestview, FL via S'port LA Posts: 197	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Yes, every aspect of the offense has sucked badly for the past several weeks. And in the earlier losses it was the offense that let us down also. Even in the loss to Seattle giving up as many points has we did, the offense showed up on only one possession. But to try to put the blame on Brees' contract is a bit of a reach to me. Ok, yeah it may have prevented us from signing "big time" OL free agents, etc, but guess what? If you are an OL, I need you to do OL sht. If you are an LB I need you to do LB sht! If you are a WR I need you to do WR sh*t! They are all professionals, and you may not be the best in the business but gosh dang it act like you know the business. DO SOMETHING!!!!

12-23-2013, 01:09 PM	#18
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,983	Re: Payton and Brees post game live Originally Posted by Danno Anyone else kinda tired of seeing our players try to juke everybody for zero yards instead of trying to plow upfield for 4 or 5 more yards? You don't juke one of the fastest LB corps in the NFL. You cut up-field and take what you can get. True. We so telegraph our intended running plays too.

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