I want an explanation!

Euphoria · 12-23-2013, 03:08 PM

I disagree with the hindsight motion.

You make honest attempt at going for the 1st down and don't get it then it is the execution of the play that lost the game for us. They can't win if they don't have the ball period. I don't buy into trust you D either.

I rather go down TRYING then just LAYING down altogether.

Danno · 12-23-2013, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

Why was Payton willing to gamble on an on-side kick and motion out of a FG attempt but wouldn't throw for a 1st down on 3rd down in the Saints final possession?

Playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

Boutte · 12-23-2013, 05:11 PM

We slapped their O around all day. Why not trust them to hold for 52 seconds?

SaintsBro · 12-23-2013, 05:18 PM

The play that was the real backbreaker to me was not the touchdown, but the long pass to Ginn a couple plays before the touchdown. That was when I was like "uh-oh" and started flashing back to San Francisco.

Rugby Saint II · 12-23-2013, 08:03 PM

Arrogance trickles down I guess.

blackangold · 12-23-2013, 08:16 PM

That series doesn't matter in the overall scheme. Don't get so focused on 2 min of football and miss the other 58 mins. The play calling was awful for most of the game, but him putting the ball on the ground at the end isn't to big of a deal.

Papa Voodoo · 12-25-2013, 12:48 PM

Morestead kicked a very short punt at the end. He should have gotten more into it. It gave the Panthers hope for OT.

CoreyO · 12-25-2013, 01:40 PM

Should of hit a play action pass on first down everone expects a run to kill the clock or not throw a pick in situations like this be aggressive and suprise them thats how you make plays

halloween 65 · 12-25-2013, 01:56 PM

There is another solution from time to time also, Brees could scramle when no one downfield is open instead of staying in the pocket getting sacked or throwing into coverage when the recievers can't get open. He is in no way a running or option type of qb. but about every DC that game plans for us knows he is not going to run and will hold the ball way to long at times. A few scrambles each game would keep a D on their toes and we might have a few yds. out of it and less int.'s.

hagan714 · 12-25-2013, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by Boutte

We slapped their O around all day. Why not trust them to hold for 52 seconds?

if we would have stayed with the same style of defense i would agree. once i saw an extra 3 yards added to the WR cushion i sank in my seat. i hate prevent of any style. if it working stick with it

as stated by Danno

Playing not to lose instead of playing to win.

big difference

That blame falls on the coaches

12-23-2013, 03:08 PM	#21
Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: I want an explanation! I disagree with the hindsight motion. You make honest attempt at going for the 1st down and don't get it then it is the execution of the play that lost the game for us. They can't win if they don't have the ball period. I don't buy into trust you D either. I rather go down TRYING then just LAYING down altogether.

12-23-2013, 04:36 PM	#22
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: I want an explanation! Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Why was Payton willing to gamble on an on-side kick and motion out of a FG attempt but wouldn't throw for a 1st down on 3rd down in the Saints final possession? Playing not to lose instead of playing to win. hagan714 likes this.

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12-23-2013, 08:16 PM	#26
blackangold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 3,422	Re: I want an explanation! That series doesn't matter in the overall scheme. Don't get so focused on 2 min of football and miss the other 58 mins. The play calling was awful for most of the game, but him putting the ball on the ground at the end isn't to big of a deal. Danno and MarchingOn like this.

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: I want an explanation! There is another solution from time to time also, Brees could scramle when no one downfield is open instead of staying in the pocket getting sacked or throwing into coverage when the recievers can't get open. He is in no way a running or option type of qb. but about every DC that game plans for us knows he is not going to run and will hold the ball way to long at times. A few scrambles each game would keep a D on their toes and we might have a few yds. out of it and less int.'s. MarchingOn likes this.

12-25-2013, 01:59 PM	#30
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: I want an explanation! Originally Posted by Boutte We slapped their O around all day. Why not trust them to hold for 52 seconds? if we would have stayed with the same style of defense i would agree. once i saw an extra 3 yards added to the WR cushion i sank in my seat. i hate prevent of any style. if it working stick with it as stated by Danno Playing not to lose instead of playing to win. big difference That blame falls on the coaches TheOak and MarchingOn like this.

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