Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era

Halo · 12-27-2013, 01:06 PM

I felt these stats highlighted what exactly is the problem this year. We have thread after thread blaming coach Payton's playcall, lack of running game, Drew Brees, and o-line for failures.

For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up.

I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed.

Danno · 12-27-2013, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up.

I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed.

I too believe problem one is the O-line.

Next is probably WR, or OLB. I kinda think our WR's would have performed much better if Drew had that extra second or two to throw. So fixing the O-line may show that WR wasn't as big a problem as we thought.

Then its BPA at CB, OLB, ILB, D-line.

TheOak · 12-27-2013, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I felt these stats highlighted what exactly is the problem this year. We have thread after thread blaming coach Payton's playcall, lack of running game, Drew Brees, and o-line for failures.

For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up.

I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed.

You missed one important point...

We changed to a blocking scheme that we are not built for this season.

New scheme... wrong personnel. Sound familiar?

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 02:55 PM

They need to go back to the old blocking scheme. Draft an athletic Rt tackle in the draft and try zone blocking next season. If we have two athletic tackle it might work. We only have one athletic tackle and they were able to run better last Sunday. Fix the offensive line and it will fix everything else on the offense.

Danno · 12-27-2013, 02:57 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

They need to go back to the old blocking scheme. Draft an athletic Rt tackle in the draft and try zone blocking next season. If we have two athletic tackle it might work. We only have one athletic tackle and they were able to run better last Sunday.

I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team.

He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL.

Oh, and he's a free-agent.

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team.

He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL.

Oh, and he's a free-agent.

It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.

Danno · 12-27-2013, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.

True in theory, but he performed better than any of our other O-linemen in this same zone scheme.

I think the main problem is we have 5 O-linemen not well suited for zone blocking.

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 03:08 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

True in theory, but he performed better than any of our other O-linemen in this same zone scheme.

I think the main problem is we have 5 O-linemen not well suited for zone blocking.

You might have a point. In that case, like I've already said, they need to go back to the old scheme. It seemed to work pretty well for them last season. It was the defense that couldn't stop anyone. By the way, do you think they might let Strief walk next season?

12-27-2013, 01:06 PM	#1
Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,889 Blog Entries: 45	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era I felt these stats highlighted what exactly is the problem this year. We have thread after thread blaming coach Payton's playcall, lack of running game, Drew Brees, and o-line for failures. For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up. I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed. Danno, SapperSaint and TheKillerBs like this.
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12-27-2013, 01:58 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Halo For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up. I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed. I too believe problem one is the O-line. Next is probably WR, or OLB. I kinda think our WR's would have performed much better if Drew had that extra second or two to throw. So fixing the O-line may show that WR wasn't as big a problem as we thought. Then its BPA at CB, OLB, ILB, D-line.

12-27-2013, 02:09 PM	#3
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Halo I felt these stats highlighted what exactly is the problem this year. We have thread after thread blaming coach Payton's playcall, lack of running game, Drew Brees, and o-line for failures. For me, this proves the offensive line is sketchy at best in 2013. Offseason cuts, trades, draft and signings WILL happen. I would also like to see a new offensive line coach with seasoned experience or someone who can coach retained players up. I've never seen Drew on his backside like I have this year. If it continues, he will get injured maybe this year but definitely next year if the o-line woes aren't correctly addressed. You missed one important point... We changed to a blocking scheme that we are not built for this season. New scheme... wrong personnel. Sound familiar?

12-27-2013, 02:55 PM	#4
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era They need to go back to the old blocking scheme. Draft an athletic Rt tackle in the draft and try zone blocking next season. If we have two athletic tackle it might work. We only have one athletic tackle and they were able to run better last Sunday. Fix the offensive line and it will fix everything else on the offense.
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12-27-2013, 02:57 PM	#5
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by NonieT They need to go back to the old blocking scheme. Draft an athletic Rt tackle in the draft and try zone blocking next season. If we have two athletic tackle it might work. We only have one athletic tackle and they were able to run better last Sunday. I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team. He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL. Oh, and he's a free-agent.

12-27-2013, 02:59 PM	#6
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Danno I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team. He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL. Oh, and he's a free-agent. It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.
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12-27-2013, 03:02 PM	#7
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by NonieT It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees. True in theory, but he performed better than any of our other O-linemen in this same zone scheme. I think the main problem is we have 5 O-linemen not well suited for zone blocking.

12-27-2013, 03:08 PM	#8
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Danno True in theory, but he performed better than any of our other O-linemen in this same zone scheme. I think the main problem is we have 5 O-linemen not well suited for zone blocking. You might have a point. In that case, like I've already said, they need to go back to the old scheme. It seemed to work pretty well for them last season. It was the defense that couldn't stop anyone. By the way, do you think they might let Strief walk next season?
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