Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team.

He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL.

Oh, and he's a free-agent.

It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.

halloween 65 · 12-27-2013, 01:14 PM

Our D has given our O lots of gift wrapped presents this year but our O has not given back. Unreal. They need to clean this crap up quick.

TheOak · 12-27-2013, 02:08 PM

Zone blocking is not working. It killed the run game and has forced us to pass more... that hurt the rest of our offensive game.

saintsfan1976 · 12-27-2013, 03:11 PM

I'm holding out hope for a complete turnaround starting Sunday and running through February

halloween 65 · 12-27-2013, 04:41 PM

For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.

Danno · 12-27-2013, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.

I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.

dizzle88 · 12-27-2013, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.

Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time

Danno · 12-27-2013, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time

Thank you mister O-line helper dude!!!

NonieT · 12-27-2013, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time

I have said it before and I'm going to say it again, the zone blocking isn't working. Our lineman are not cut out for it. They need to go back to gap blocking.

halloween 65 · 12-28-2013, 10:09 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal.
Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.

Me either!! I thought it was for everything.

12-27-2013, 02:59 PM	#1
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Danno I don't think RT is the problem. This year Strief grades out our best O-lineman on the team. He'll likely grade out in the top 5 RT's in the entire NFL. Oh, and he's a free-agent. It's a problem if you want to run a zone blocking scheme. He is not very athletic. Man's got bad knees.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Our D has given our O lots of gift wrapped presents this year but our O has not given back. Unreal. They need to clean this crap up quick. Halo likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Zone blocking is not working. It killed the run game and has forced us to pass more... that hurt the rest of our offensive game. Boutte likes this.

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saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,011 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era I'm holding out hope for a complete turnaround starting Sunday and running through February

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by halloween 65 For Strief to grade out positve in zone blocking with bad knees doesn't say much about the other O-linemen. If and I mean if zone blocking has caused all the sacks, hits, hurries, knockdowns on Brees and stifled our run game seems to me there lies the problem. I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal. Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Danno I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal. Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert. Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time Danno and halloween 65 like this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by dizzle88 Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time Thank you mister O-line helper dude!!! dizzle88 likes this.

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NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by dizzle88 Zone blocking is only a run game technique, pass blocking is pretty much standard every time I have said it before and I'm going to say it again, the zone blocking isn't working. Our lineman are not cut out for it. They need to go back to gap blocking.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints Offense Breaking Records in 2013 - Lowest Production in Payton Era Originally Posted by Danno I think the zone blocking techniques only apply to run blocking? I'm not sure but I think pass blocking is a totally different animal. Admittedly I'm no OLine scheme expert. Me either!! I thought it was for everything.

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