Final season stats for defense

TheOak · 12-30-2013, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

How different is the defense going to look next year in terms of scheme? We are moving more towards a true 3-4, right?

The scheme revert has already been done.

It will look different...

Harolson was a 1 year signing.
Smith hopefully will be gone.
Butler will be back
Vilma will hopefully be gone.
As far as for the DBs i expect a renovation.

LBCutta · 12-30-2013, 06:16 AM

Good rebound year on D. I'd like to see some fine tuning. Get rid of Harper and Jenkins. Their time is up. A healthy Victor Butler should help. The LB corps will shape up to be strong next year IMO. I'd like a free agent corner to replace Greer (he's gone)

WhoDatFan26 · 12-30-2013, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by LBCutta

Good rebound year on D. I'd like to see some fine tuning. Get rid of Harper and Jenkins. Their time is up. A healthy Victor Butler should help. The LB corps will shape up to be strong next year IMO. I'd like a free agent corner to replace Greer (he's gone)

Why replace Jenkins? He and Vaccaro compliment each other, unlike Harper with either player. Plus RR's scheme depends on defensive flexibility and both Vaccaro and Jenkins are versatile enough to slide inside and cover the slot. The only thing I would do is find a true 3-4 DE to allow Junior to focus on pass rushing and another CB. The pressure defense means you need CB's who can play on an island.

exile · 12-30-2013, 09:49 AM

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jeanpierre · 12-30-2013, 07:22 AM

Definitely need another Safety as all but Vaccaro will have expiring contracts or a bad contract...

One of the first three draft picks should be used on a linebacker (inside or outside, maybe both); like to bring Humber back, though he's smallish for the 34, he looked more impressive with the limited snaps than Lofton did...

Like all our returning defensive linemen, may need another in the mix to challenge and continue the youth movement...

Cornerback will depend on returning health and if Robinson returns; Lewis, White were definitely strong additions...

saintsfan1976 · 12-30-2013, 07:38 AM

Butler replaces Haralson

Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting

Need another S and CB (likely via free agency)

Draft OL & DL

WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr.

jeanpierre · 12-30-2013, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr.

Have no problem having Meachem as a 4 or 5 WR - just wish we hadn't spent a ******* First Round Draft Pick on 'em; plus, he'll have familiarity and a friendly cap number...

Now, I think you have to consider that Stills' development has exposed Lance Moore's cap number...

halloween 65 · 12-30-2013, 08:42 AM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

Have no problem having Meachem as a 4 or 5 WR - just wish we hadn't spent a ******* First Round Draft Pick on 'em; plus, he'll have familiarity and a friendly cap number...

Now, I think you have to consider that Stills' development has exposed Lance Moore's cap number...

Draft Josh Huff out of Oregan to go along with Stills we could let Moore walk. Real good slot reciever, that won't break the bank, some reads say he is a poor mans Antwoin Boldin. Could be drafted in 3rd to 6th round.

K Major · 12-30-2013, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Butler replaces Haralson

Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting

Need another S and CB (likely via free agency)

Draft OL & DL

WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr.

+1. I loved the Haralson acquisition however I thought he would have had more of an impact this season. As for Odell Jr., he is projected as a day 2 pick and with all of our other needs, I'm not sure this kid will still be around like Stills was last draft.

dueceloose · 12-30-2013, 10:02 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Butler replaces Haralson

Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting

Need another S and CB (likely via free agency)

Draft OL & DL

WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr.

No need to draft a Wr IMO We still got Morgan sitting resting those acl's. And plus Stills is better at the speed Wr than Meachem anyway. We solidify the line and our corners I'd be scared. Imagine if we could've played the season with Butler and the only person I see us replacing soon is Colston if Toon doesn't work out.

12-30-2013, 06:56 AM	#1
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by SaintLeonard How different is the defense going to look next year in terms of scheme? We are moving more towards a true 3-4, right? The scheme revert has already been done. It will look different... Harolson was a 1 year signing. Smith hopefully will be gone. Butler will be back Vilma will hopefully be gone. As far as for the DBs i expect a renovation.

12-30-2013, 06:16 AM	#2
LBCutta 500th Post Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Killeen, TX....Born in Marrero, LA Posts: 592	Re: Final season stats for defense Good rebound year on D. I'd like to see some fine tuning. Get rid of Harper and Jenkins. Their time is up. A healthy Victor Butler should help. The LB corps will shape up to be strong next year IMO. I'd like a free agent corner to replace Greer (he's gone) jeanpierre and K Major like this.

12-30-2013, 09:40 AM	#3
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by LBCutta Good rebound year on D. I'd like to see some fine tuning. Get rid of Harper and Jenkins. Their time is up. A healthy Victor Butler should help. The LB corps will shape up to be strong next year IMO. I'd like a free agent corner to replace Greer (he's gone) Why replace Jenkins? He and Vaccaro compliment each other, unlike Harper with either player. Plus RR's scheme depends on defensive flexibility and both Vaccaro and Jenkins are versatile enough to slide inside and cover the slot. The only thing I would do is find a true 3-4 DE to allow Junior to focus on pass rushing and another CB. The pressure defense means you need CB's who can play on an island.
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12-30-2013, 09:49 AM	#4
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12-30-2013, 07:22 AM	#5
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Final season stats for defense Definitely need another Safety as all but Vaccaro will have expiring contracts or a bad contract... One of the first three draft picks should be used on a linebacker (inside or outside, maybe both); like to bring Humber back, though he's smallish for the 34, he looked more impressive with the limited snaps than Lofton did... Like all our returning defensive linemen, may need another in the mix to challenge and continue the youth movement... Cornerback will depend on returning health and if Robinson returns; Lewis, White were definitely strong additions... saintsfan1976 likes this.

12-30-2013, 07:38 AM	#6
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,024 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Final season stats for defense Butler replaces Haralson Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting Need another S and CB (likely via free agency) Draft OL & DL WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr. dueceloose, K Major and WhoDat2301 like this.

12-30-2013, 08:04 AM	#7
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr. Have no problem having Meachem as a 4 or 5 WR - just wish we hadn't spent a ******* First Round Draft Pick on 'em; plus, he'll have familiarity and a friendly cap number... Now, I think you have to consider that Stills' development has exposed Lance Moore's cap number...

12-30-2013, 08:42 AM	#8
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by jeanpierre Have no problem having Meachem as a 4 or 5 WR - just wish we hadn't spent a ******* First Round Draft Pick on 'em; plus, he'll have familiarity and a friendly cap number... Now, I think you have to consider that Stills' development has exposed Lance Moore's cap number... Draft Josh Huff out of Oregan to go along with Stills we could let Moore walk. Real good slot reciever, that won't break the bank, some reads say he is a poor mans Antwoin Boldin. Could be drafted in 3rd to 6th round.

12-30-2013, 08:37 AM	#9
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,831 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Butler replaces Haralson Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting Need another S and CB (likely via free agency) Draft OL & DL WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr. +1. I loved the Haralson acquisition however I thought he would have had more of an impact this season. As for Odell Jr., he is projected as a day 2 pick and with all of our other needs, I'm not sure this kid will still be around like Stills was last draft.

12-30-2013, 10:02 AM	#10
dueceloose 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 957	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Butler replaces Haralson Two young ILBs in Rufus and Reddick, 2-3 years away from starting Need another S and CB (likely via free agency) Draft OL & DL WR to replace Meachem - Jordan Matthews or Odell Beckham Jr. No need to draft a Wr IMO We still got Morgan sitting resting those acl's. And plus Stills is better at the speed Wr than Meachem anyway. We solidify the line and our corners I'd be scared. Imagine if we could've played the season with Butler and the only person I see us replacing soon is Colston if Toon doesn't work out. dizzle88 likes this.
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