Final season stats for defense

K Major · 12-30-2013, 12:53 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

Murray = a college version of Tony Romo. Puts up good #s but chokes in late game situations.

I sure wish he had choked against LSU earlier this year... had one of his better performances of the season.

The Dude · 12-30-2013, 12:55 PM

And to think of how many starters and players that Ryan brought in got injured before it all even started

jeanpierre · 12-30-2013, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by papz

WR - Offense has gotten a bit stagnant. In a extremely deep receiver class coming out, a mid round investment in a WR could pay off in spades.

OL- Well, duh.

Not overly concerned about making any big changes to our secondary. As long as the pressure is coming, they'll be as good as they need to be.

Oh, and give me Aaron Murray.

Actually, really like our WR corps, with the exception/slight disappointment in Toon...

Don't get paying Colston (who is worth it) that kind of money and not using him?!?

Again, with Stills' development, Moore's price may be too high with upcoming contracts to get done (Graham)...

Saints must really like Griffin to have kept Rams away from him; so unless Murray is going to supplant Drew, or some other freakish talent falls in the draft, I don't us taking anything but DB, LB, and OL...

And you're right, it's a no brainer that we've got definite commitments to make to the offensive line in the draft...

papz · 12-30-2013, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintLeonard

Please no.

Murray = a college version of Tony Romo. Puts up good #s but chokes in late game situations.

Scapegoat. Plenty blame to go around as they've underachieved on both sides of the ball. You also need to remember it's college football and how young these kids are. Also I found this little nugget that shares similar views.

In Defense of Georgia QB Aaron Murray: Why the "Choke Artist" Talk Is Unfair | Bleacher Report

I'm not advocating taking Murray with an early pick, but given his situation(big injury), if he's still there on day 3, it could be a solid investment. I like Griffin and all, but it doesn't make him Drew's eventual successor. Competition is healthy.

Jack Vegas · 12-30-2013, 01:21 PM

Originally Posted by Schmohams

Who was it that predicted the Saints to have a top 5 defense at the begging of the season?

I said top 10 and I was a big believer in the d-line before training camp even started.

ikecomp · 12-30-2013, 03:16 PM

I'd like to see the focus in these 3 areas

OL: Not much needs to be said here. It can not stay in it's current shape. I'm fine with looking towards armstead and letting him mature but we need to get more o-line pieces in case he doesn't work out

LB:This is tough because I like our guys but something has to be done about the lack of speed. I don't know if we want them to maybe cut some weight or get new LB's but their pursuit speed and coverage skills leave a lot to be desired

DB's: It's time to clean a little house. Harper, greer and possibly jenkins should be gone. We don't need to spend heavy but we need a little more speed and depth in the secondary

Everything else is a bonus. I trust that we can do like we always do for offensive weapons and get some no names.

hagan714 · 12-30-2013, 03:49 PM

i turned off the TV disappointed in the defense

no pass rush at all

but my biggest concern was the lack of discipline they showed.

i guess they did not learn from the seattle game. reckless aggressive play will get you burned. philli will eat us up if the defense plays that way next week. that blame rests squarely on the coaches.

Danno · 12-30-2013, 04:10 PM

OTHER INTERESTING END OF SEASON STATS

RUSHING
Mark Ingram 78 386 4.9
Darren Sproles 53 220 4.2
Khiry Robinson 54 224 4.1
Pierre Thomas 147 549 3.7

RECEIVING
Mark Ingram 7 11 68 9.7
Darren Sproles 71 89 604 8.5
Pierre Thomas 77 84 513 6.7

Looks like Mark may be back next season

SaintLeonard · 12-30-2013, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

OTHER INTERESTING END OF SEASON STATS

RUSHING
Mark Ingram 78 386 4.9
Darren Sproles 53 220 4.2
Khiry Robinson 54 224 4.1
Pierre Thomas 147 549 3.7

RECEIVING
Mark Ingram 7 11 68 9.7
Darren Sproles 71 89 604 8.5
Pierre Thomas 77 84 513 6.7

Looks like Mark may be back next season

Hopefully we feed him the ball more. He was good this season. And Thomas' YardsperCarry average is a bit shocking..

WhoDatFan26 · 12-30-2013, 05:45 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Someone is gone after this season...

WR
Colston
Meachem
Moore
Stills
Toon
Morgan

Ive a feeling Moore will be traded and replaced by Stills, Toon will be gone, and Meachem will be gone.

There is also a good possibility that Morgan will be gone also as he will be a free agent. Morgan has been with us 3 years has not had a completely healthy season yet.. In a nut shell we paid 1.3M for 10 catches.

The reds go and we pick up new Receivers.

Next years top 4 Wideouts will be Colston, Stills, Morgan and Toon.

12-30-2013, 12:53 PM	#41
K Major Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Bedford, TX Posts: 24,622 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by SaintLeonard Murray = a college version of Tony Romo. Puts up good #s but chokes in late game situations. I sure wish he had choked against LSU earlier this year... had one of his better performances of the season. papz and WhoDat2301 like this.

12-30-2013, 12:55 PM	#42
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12-30-2013, 12:55 PM	#43
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by papz WR - Offense has gotten a bit stagnant. In a extremely deep receiver class coming out, a mid round investment in a WR could pay off in spades. OL- Well, duh. Not overly concerned about making any big changes to our secondary. As long as the pressure is coming, they'll be as good as they need to be. Oh, and give me Aaron Murray. Actually, really like our WR corps, with the exception/slight disappointment in Toon... Don't get paying Colston (who is worth it) that kind of money and not using him?!? Again, with Stills' development, Moore's price may be too high with upcoming contracts to get done (Graham)... Saints must really like Griffin to have kept Rams away from him; so unless Murray is going to supplant Drew, or some other freakish talent falls in the draft, I don't us taking anything but DB, LB, and OL... And you're right, it's a no brainer that we've got definite commitments to make to the offensive line in the draft...
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12-30-2013, 01:19 PM	#44
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,753	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by SaintLeonard Please no. Murray = a college version of Tony Romo. Puts up good #s but chokes in late game situations. Scapegoat. Plenty blame to go around as they've underachieved on both sides of the ball. You also need to remember it's college football and how young these kids are. Also I found this little nugget that shares similar views. In Defense of Georgia QB Aaron Murray: Why the "Choke Artist" Talk Is Unfair \| Bleacher Report I'm not advocating taking Murray with an early pick, but given his situation(big injury), if he's still there on day 3, it could be a solid investment. I like Griffin and all, but it doesn't make him Drew's eventual successor. Competition is healthy.
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12-30-2013, 01:21 PM	#45
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by Schmohams Who was it that predicted the Saints to have a top 5 defense at the begging of the season? I said top 10 and I was a big believer in the d-line before training camp even started.
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12-30-2013, 03:16 PM	#46
ikecomp 100th Post Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 329	Re: Final season stats for defense I'd like to see the focus in these 3 areas OL: Not much needs to be said here. It can not stay in it's current shape. I'm fine with looking towards armstead and letting him mature but we need to get more o-line pieces in case he doesn't work out LB:This is tough because I like our guys but something has to be done about the lack of speed. I don't know if we want them to maybe cut some weight or get new LB's but their pursuit speed and coverage skills leave a lot to be desired DB's: It's time to clean a little house. Harper, greer and possibly jenkins should be gone. We don't need to spend heavy but we need a little more speed and depth in the secondary Everything else is a bonus. I trust that we can do like we always do for offensive weapons and get some no names.
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12-30-2013, 03:49 PM	#47
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Final season stats for defense i turned off the TV disappointed in the defense no pass rush at all but my biggest concern was the lack of discipline they showed. i guess they did not learn from the seattle game. reckless aggressive play will get you burned. philli will eat us up if the defense plays that way next week. that blame rests squarely on the coaches.

12-30-2013, 04:10 PM	#48
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Final season stats for defense OTHER INTERESTING END OF SEASON STATS RUSHING Mark Ingram 78 386 4.9 Darren Sproles 53 220 4.2 Khiry Robinson 54 224 4.1 Pierre Thomas 147 549 3.7 RECEIVING Mark Ingram 7 11 68 9.7 Darren Sproles 71 89 604 8.5 Pierre Thomas 77 84 513 6.7 Looks like Mark may be back next season dizzle88 likes this.

12-30-2013, 04:12 PM	#49
SaintLeonard Bounty hunter Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Nashville Posts: 490	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by Danno OTHER INTERESTING END OF SEASON STATS RUSHING Mark Ingram 78 386 4.9 Darren Sproles 53 220 4.2 Khiry Robinson 54 224 4.1 Pierre Thomas 147 549 3.7 RECEIVING Mark Ingram 7 11 68 9.7 Darren Sproles 71 89 604 8.5 Pierre Thomas 77 84 513 6.7 Looks like Mark may be back next season Hopefully we feed him the ball more. He was good this season. And Thomas' YardsperCarry average is a bit shocking..

12-30-2013, 05:45 PM	#50
WhoDatFan26 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Posts: 365	Re: Final season stats for defense Originally Posted by TheOak Someone is gone after this season... WR Colston Meachem Moore Stills Toon Morgan Ive a feeling Moore will be traded and replaced by Stills, Toon will be gone, and Meachem will be gone. There is also a good possibility that Morgan will be gone also as he will be a free agent. Morgan has been with us 3 years has not had a completely healthy season yet.. In a nut shell we paid 1.3M for 10 catches. The reds go and we pick up new Receivers. Next years top 4 Wideouts will be Colston, Stills, Morgan and Toon.
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