Did Peyton really break Drew's record?

callmedaddy · 01-01-2014, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

You live in a world where only good "ifs" happen.

If it didn't happen, it didn't happen.

By your logic Graham should have the TE TD record. "If " Drew had thrown it to him two more times in the endzone instead of running the click out he would have has it.

If my aunt had ballz she would be my uncle. But she doesn't and I'm glad for it... Uncles Kneel and Bob wouldn't go over well for Christmas.

I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.

Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.

WhoDat!656 · 01-01-2014, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by callmedaddy

I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.

Even then, I've only seen one angle where it did look like an obvious forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.

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callmedaddy · 01-01-2014, 05:25 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

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I meant "I've only seen one angle where it wasn't a forward pass" fixing now.

TheOak · 01-02-2014, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by callmedaddy

I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards.

You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks.

Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.

I suspect that you and I are polar opposites on more than just passing records. You are emotionally invested in a record that is not subjective, this is not an opinion based subject. It is based purely on empirical data.

He either threw legal passes for more yards or he didn't. Absolutely nothing else matters. If it is ruled that the pass was not a legal pass then he didn't and the opinions of you and I are moot.

Now there is a subjective aspect to this and Payton Manning coming out if the game with just one yard above Drew's record tells me two things.

1. He is an idiot. He let the referees decide.

2. He agrees that no one knows what would have happened on the next play. Manning him self chose not to take the risk of one more pass.

Records are risk/reward. You don't break them and hold them playing safe football.

01-01-2014, 05:16 PM	#1
callmedaddy Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 14	Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record? Originally Posted by TheOak You live in a world where only good "ifs" happen. If it didn't happen, it didn't happen. By your logic Graham should have the TE TD record. "If " Drew had thrown it to him two more times in the endzone instead of running the click out he would have has it. If my aunt had ballz she would be my uncle. But she doesn't and I'm glad for it... Uncles Kneel and Bob wouldn't go over well for Christmas. I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards. You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks. Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link.
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01-01-2014, 05:22 PM	#2
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,094	Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record? Originally Posted by callmedaddy I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards. You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks. Even then, I've only seen one angle where it did look like an obvious forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link. Peyton Manning should have NFL single-season passing record taken away \| The MMQB with Peter King

01-01-2014, 05:25 PM	#3
callmedaddy Rookie Join Date: Sep 2011 Posts: 14	Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 Peyton Manning should have NFL single-season passing record taken away \| The MMQB with Peter King I meant "I've only seen one angle where it wasn't a forward pass" fixing now.
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01-02-2014, 07:18 AM	#4
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: Did Peyton really break Drew's record? Originally Posted by callmedaddy I don't mind them taking the throw back one bit, from what I saw it wasn't a forward pass. But that's not going to change the fact for me(which is why it's an opinion) that Peyton deserved the record and there would be an asterisk by his yards. You're entitled to your opinion, but I just think a refs **** up being the only reason Peyton didn't get the record kind of sucks. Even then, I've only seen one angle where it didn't look like a forward pass, maybe the reviewers had a much better angle, I'm not sure. Someone previously stated at another angle it was a forward pass, so I'd also like to see that angle if anyone has a link. I suspect that you and I are polar opposites on more than just passing records. You are emotionally invested in a record that is not subjective, this is not an opinion based subject. It is based purely on empirical data. He either threw legal passes for more yards or he didn't. Absolutely nothing else matters. If it is ruled that the pass was not a legal pass then he didn't and the opinions of you and I are moot. Now there is a subjective aspect to this and Payton Manning coming out if the game with just one yard above Drew's record tells me two things. 1. He is an idiot. He let the referees decide. 2. He agrees that no one knows what would have happened on the next play. Manning him self chose not to take the risk of one more pass. Records are risk/reward. You don't break them and hold them playing safe football.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

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