This is why Malcolm Jenkins isn't going anywhere
 

In 2013, his stats were:
68 tackles, 2.5 sacks and 2 interceptions. Plus as I've stated many times he is adept at covering both Tight Ends and Wide Outs. Please stop with the ridiculous notion that he will either be released or traded.

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He's a free agent... He just simply won't be resigned. Dare I say, we could actually get someone who can play free safety.

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Well he's an upcoming FA, so we could just decide not to resign him. Honestly hope that is what we do. He may get a decent amount of tackles, but face it, he's not good in coverage. And that is a free safety's main responsibility.

Rafael Bush is better, who is also an upcoming FA. I hope we resign Bush. He's better AND cheaper, just a win-win situation there. Bush and Vaccaro would be a sick safety duo.

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I'm okay with Jenkins being on the team, but not at his current salary.

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His tackling techniques were on display yesterday. Good ole shoulder lunge.lol!

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i think he maybe a cap causality. his play will has nothing to do with. do we have the money. answer is no right now.

lets see what mickey does this year. thought last year was fun. i am betting this year will blow last year out of the water.

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Last year was sign a handful of decent-below average players with low salaries and try them out, and sign one key guy (Kennan Lewis.) I think this year will be similar.

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I like him but yeah he's gone Harpers gone Ingram maybe gone I believe Lance maybe even be gone and we all know Will Smith and Vilma's gone. I'm saying this before the game next week were I don't believe we will win sorry just being real.

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Jenkins is currently the 14th highest paid safety in the NFL.

Harper is currently the 19th highest paid safety in the NFL, but comes with 3.7million dead money.

Cutting Harper frees up only 2.2 million, and you have to replace him.

So basically keeping Harper in 2014 is the equivalent of signing a 2 million safety on the team, which is basically glorified back-up money for a starting safety.

I doubt you can sign a better SS for 2 million than what we already have in Harper.

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I doubt someone would trade for Harper either, just use him right RR, he can be used to rush the QB.

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There are a few things you left out like constantly taking bad angles, piss poor tackling, constantly misjudging the ball in the air, having to try to chase people down after he has blown his assignment, and really does not cover that well at all. Jenkins and his stats says nothing of his field ability which he has very, very little. Being a 1st round #14 pick he was a bad pick, not quite a bust but real, real close!!

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Jenkins and Harper are awful safeties...

Don't take my word for it though you can look at this tidbit if you'd like.

" S: Of 88 graded safeties, Roman Harper came in 87th and Malcom Jenkins came in 88th. No joke. Isa Abdul-Quddus came in a middle of the pack 40th. In coverage, Harper was dead last and Jenkins was 4th worst. Against the run, IAQ was 5th worst and Jenkins was 6th worst. Roman Harper gave up 46 receptions, no other safety gave up for than 41. Basically the play on the back end was possibly the worst ever"

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores For Saints Players in 2012 (Defense & Special Teams)

PFF is widely accepted and a trusted source. They should both be gone next season regardless of dead money involved.

Vaccaro> Harper
Bush> Jenkins

It's not even close.

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This game could be a make or break for him depending on how well he does against McCoy if it comes to him.

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I'll go ahead and say that he absolutely was a bust. For being the #14 pick he didn't justify it one bit. A handful of nice plays in 5 years doesn't cut it.

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Would rather see Vaccaro and Bush then Harper and Jenkins, I'm sick and tired of seeing horrible safeties play for the Saints

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Harper's already restructured his contract and seems to remain a coach favorite. Vacarro is the future for Ryan's D and will cash in later.
Agree we won't find a cheaper option unless drafted, no?

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When did Harper become a coach favorite? He's out there because Vaccaro is on IR

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Well, he was resigned.

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I was just trying to be nice!!

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I know... I'm just venting frustration LOL. I bought his damn jersey so I've been dying for him to live up to expectations.

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Sorry about the jersey!!

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You can't call Jenkins a bust. I do think he is an awful safety, however he should have never been drafted to play FS. He was a CB in college and unfortunately we wasted him on a position he shouldn't have played.

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He wasn't below average... He was just a backup

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Kind of hard to blame anybody on our defense for 2012. There is not a single soul on this earth that could have succeeded in our defense that year.

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Anyone who uses 2012 stats to evaluate a 2013 Saint is extremely shortsighted and shows a total lack of football knowledge.

Lofton was also one of the worst MLB's in the NFL and Jabari Greer was one of the worst CB's in the entire NFL according to 2012 PFF stats.

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JP,
This Bucannon kid is projected to be a 2nd round selection. Who else do you have on your short list of ball hawking safeties for next years draft?

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Like a fly in my trap...

I knew you would say that so here are the tidbits from 2011; a year when our D was average and GW was the DC. Enough excuses!

"S: I had a real bad feeling about this before I even looked it up. Roman Harper and Malcolm Jenkins were two of the worst graded starters on my player grades. Sure enough, Harper graded 82nd out of 86 graded players. Just horrible. Jenkins graded 42nd overall, or totally middle of the road, with a negative grade. There's 64 starting safeties in the NFL, so for one to grade as 42nd and another 82nd is horrifying. Yuck. Our defense sucked even harder than I thought. I hate you Gregg Williams."

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores for Saints Players in 2011 (Defense & Special Teams)

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I prefer bush over Jenkins

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Malcolm Jenkins will be resigned to a 3 year deal. He will be our starting FS/SS next season.

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Jenkins to be the new Scott Shanle

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Then we will have a really bad safety for 3 more years!!

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The only thing I like about Jenkins is his effort, last year vs. the Buccaneers. VJackson was wide open to the endzone and Jenkins ran from like 10 yards behind him to cacth him at the 3 yard line.

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Of 113 graded corners, Jabari Greer graded best at 60th overall. This average don't make him one of the worst it make him just average

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Our 3 safety set is arguably our most dominant defensive formation, who cares if harper is not asked to cover people, rob wants him to rush the passer and rob has brought us a top 5 ranked defense, think ill trust him to be honest

Harper will be asked to take a paycut this offseason to stay, but you wont find a SS as good as harper for cheaper, when harper went down injured, they put vaccaro in his spot and teams ran down our throats

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You should add 16 missed tackles as well.

He's neither bad nor good. The reality of it is that he is replaceable.

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Jenkins can't play corner and has never adapted well to FS. Bad angle after bad angle with poor tackling and little awareness. Harper is better than Jenkins and he may not be here either. Bush with Vacarro is a solid tandem.

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I don't know how they do the grading, but every time somebody posts them they seem a little sketchy.

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What would you call more ridiculous?

1. You wanting the notion of trading a player that is not trade-able to stop?
2. You wanting the notion of releasing a player that is not releasable to stop?
3. Wanting to keep the 61sh ranked tackler but the 14th highest Cap hit Safety?

Of NFL Safeties
His tackling efficiency ranks 138th in the NFL.
Allowed TDs in his coverage 20th in the NFL.
Yards after the catch allowed 8th in the NFL.
Receptions allowed in his coverage 7th in the NFL.
Coverage targeted in the NFL 10th. <---QBs prey on him.
Missed Tackles 10th most in passing, 18th most in rushing.

He is 5th in pass Rush for S.
4th in sacks for S.

Before you go calling the majority of the board ridiculous you know what you are talking about.

He is only valuable in a 3 S set. Otherwise he is a liability in coverage and open field tackling. He is a mediocre Safety at best but getting paid very well.

Jenkins cant hold Vaccaro's jock and actually trails Harper on some stats.

I would have benched him on that BS puzzy-azz tackle attempt in the Tampa Bay game Sunday when he got hurdled and didn't know until he hit the ground.

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If Harper and Jenkins are as bad as some want to make out we wouldn't have just seen the Defense jump from one of the 2 worst in the league to one of the top 5 this year.