Mock Draft Simulator

jeanpierre · 03-23-2014, 06:25 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

hey JP try this odd ball

we trade with houston Jimmy swapping 1s picking up their 2 and 3

then trade back with brown picking up 2nd and 3rd

bank role any additional picks for 2015

thats picks

#4
#33
#35
#65
#71

plus our picks for rounds 2 through 6

just for the giggles

One question occurred to me concerning trading back and forth for picks - limited cap space this season...

The rookie class draft allotment is usually "preassigned" based on the current collective bargaining agreement so am wondering if we were also limited on how we could possibly trade...

jeanpierre · 03-23-2014, 11:18 PM

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2014 NFL Mock Draft Machine - Create Your Own NFL Draft - ESPN

hagan714 · 03-24-2014, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

One question occurred to me concerning trading back and forth for picks - limited cap space this season...

The rookie class draft allotment is usually "preassigned" based on the current collective bargaining agreement so am wondering if we were also limited on how we could possibly trade...

you gotta get rid of a big ticket item to fill the draw with many goodies. say 8 mill for graham should just about cover the bill. cut here of last year contract players will pay for a replacement in the draft with change left over to get another

all in fun on that one

hagan714 · 03-24-2014, 03:42 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

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2014 NFL Mock Draft Machine - Create Your Own NFL Draft - ESPN

YOUR PICKS
1 Jadeveon Clowney DE, South Carolina
2 Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson
3 Khalil Mack OLB, Buffalo
4 Greg Robinson OT, Auburn
5 Jake Matthews OT, Texas A&M
6 Taylor Lewan OT, Michigan
7 Anthony Barr OLB, UCLA
8 Justin Gilbert DC, Oklahoma State
9 Calvin Pryor DS, Louisville
10 Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M
11 Darqueze Dennard DC, Michigan State
12 Eric Ebron TE, North Carolina
13 Zack Martin OT, Notre Dame
14 Aaron Donald DT, Pittsburgh
15 C.J. Mosley ILB, Alabama
16 Odell Beckham Jr. WR, LSU
17 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix DS, Alabama
18 Marqise Lee WR, USC
19 Timmy Jernigan DT, Florida State
20 Blake Bortles QB, UCF
21 Louis Nix III DT, Notre Dame
22 Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon State
23 Kony Ealy DE, Missouri
24 Dee Ford DE, Auburn
25 Ryan Shazier OLB, Ohio State
26 Xavier Su'a-Filo OG, UCLA
27 Jason Verrett DC, TCU
28 Bradley Roby DC, Ohio State
29 Stephon Tuitt DE, Notre Dame
30 Kyle Fuller DC, Virginia Tech
31 Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisville
32 Ra'Shede Hageman DT, Minnesota

how about the triple in the top ten of OT

jeanpierre · 03-26-2014, 08:26 AM

Believe Jordan Matthews will be our first round pick if that's what's on the board when the Saints select...

jeanpierre · 03-26-2014, 12:11 PM

Can you imagine having to decide to select Clowney?!?

The physical measurable stats are off-the-charts, but is the head case worth it?!?

TheOak · 03-26-2014, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

you gotta get rid of a big ticket item to fill the draw with many goodies. say 8 mill for graham should just about cover the bill. cut here of last year contract players will pay for a replacement in the draft with change left over to get another all in fun on that one

Franchise Tag = Guaranteed Money

Players is cut/traded, Guaranteed Money = Dead money
2013 Team Dead Money Rankings

hagan714 · 03-26-2014, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Franchise Tag = Guaranteed Money

Players is cut/traded, Guaranteed Money = Dead money
2013 Team Dead Money Rankings

nothing is signed so that is the end of dead money, And if a trade was to happen the tag is a mute issue. it would all be handled in the trade for a player like Jimmy. Do you think the saints would want to be the laughing stock of the NFL? Mickey coming out of a deal as big as this looking like a fool? don't think so.

besides i would be amazed if we did anything but get Jimmy all wrapped up. graham is a bargain tagged as a TE. As a WR that is another story. We would have time to decide what we are going to do. so till then dead money is a dead topic when it comes to jimmy

TheOak · 03-26-2014, 04:40 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

nothing is signed so that is the end of dead money, And if a trade was to happen the tag is a mute issue. it would all be handled in the trade for a player like Jimmy. other wise the saints would be the laughing stock of the NFL. Mickey coming out of a deal as big as this looking like a fool? don't think so.

besides i would be amazed if we did anything but get Jimmy all wrapped up. graham is a bargain tagged as a TE. As a WR that is another story. We would have time to decide what we are going to do. so till then dead money is a dead topic when it comes to jimmy

Ignoring the fact that until something is signed you have nothing to trade. Since he has to sign something in order for you to have something to trade, the tag and it's dead money are neither moot or ended.

I'm not sure you understand that dead money can not be traded or moved. It's not yo to Loomis, it's governed by the CBA. His hands are tied.

At the end of every deal or contract is the League. Each and every contract or trade has to be approved by the League office before it is final.

hagan714 · 03-26-2014, 05:01 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ignoring the fact that until something is signed you have nothing to trade. Since he has to sign something in order for you to have something to trade, the tag and it's dead money are neither moot or ended.

I'm not sure you understand that dead money can not be traded or moved. It's not yo to Loomis, it's governed by the CBA. His hands are tied.

At the end of every deal or contract is the League. Each and every contract or trade has to be approved by the League office before it is final.

look right now we control his football future that is all. that is all the tag does at this point. he can sign it or we can pull it till the due date

his options in the open market are few and far in between. till he accepts the contract or appeals it we are all just sitting tight. if he appeals we are again sitting tight till the saints decide what they will do.

any ways if a team offers him the same money we are we keep him.

They offer more and picks off he goes if that is what the saints decide to do.

so we keep him or a team pays him more than we are willing to do and forks over the additional picks

If he appeals and wins odds are their will be even fewer teams out there that will go for the 10 mill and picks. so he ends up a saint and we cut players to get under the cap.

Or god for bids the saints decide to pull the tag and let him walk. we will have time to make our minds up if the tag is changed. just like jimmy has time to decide if he going to sign it

i do not see dead money as an issue with jimmy.

03-23-2014, 06:25 PM	#181
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by hagan714 hey JP try this odd ball we trade with houston Jimmy swapping 1s picking up their 2 and 3 then trade back with brown picking up 2nd and 3rd bank role any additional picks for 2015 thats picks #4 #33 #35 #65 #71 plus our picks for rounds 2 through 6 just for the giggles One question occurred to me concerning trading back and forth for picks - limited cap space this season... The rookie class draft allotment is usually "preassigned" based on the current collective bargaining agreement so am wondering if we were also limited on how we could possibly trade...

03-23-2014, 11:18 PM	#182
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03-24-2014, 03:19 PM	#183
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by jeanpierre One question occurred to me concerning trading back and forth for picks - limited cap space this season... The rookie class draft allotment is usually "preassigned" based on the current collective bargaining agreement so am wondering if we were also limited on how we could possibly trade... you gotta get rid of a big ticket item to fill the draw with many goodies. say 8 mill for graham should just about cover the bill. cut here of last year contract players will pay for a replacement in the draft with change left over to get another all in fun on that one

03-24-2014, 03:42 PM	#184
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by jeanpierre Mock Me! Another Mock Machine! 2014 NFL Mock Draft Machine - Create Your Own NFL Draft - ESPN YOUR PICKS 1 Jadeveon Clowney DE, South Carolina 2 Sammy Watkins WR, Clemson 3 Khalil Mack OLB, Buffalo 4 Greg Robinson OT, Auburn 5 Jake Matthews OT, Texas A&M 6 Taylor Lewan OT, Michigan 7 Anthony Barr OLB, UCLA 8 Justin Gilbert DC, Oklahoma State 9 Calvin Pryor DS, Louisville 10 Mike Evans WR, Texas A&M 11 Darqueze Dennard DC, Michigan State 12 Eric Ebron TE, North Carolina 13 Zack Martin OT, Notre Dame 14 Aaron Donald DT, Pittsburgh 15 C.J. Mosley ILB, Alabama 16 Odell Beckham Jr. WR, LSU 17 Ha Ha Clinton-Dix DS, Alabama 18 Marqise Lee WR, USC 19 Timmy Jernigan DT, Florida State 20 Blake Bortles QB, UCF 21 Louis Nix III DT, Notre Dame 22 Brandin Cooks WR, Oregon State 23 Kony Ealy DE, Missouri 24 Dee Ford DE, Auburn 25 Ryan Shazier OLB, Ohio State 26 Xavier Su'a-Filo OG, UCLA 27 Jason Verrett DC, TCU 28 Bradley Roby DC, Ohio State 29 Stephon Tuitt DE, Notre Dame 30 Kyle Fuller DC, Virginia Tech 31 Teddy Bridgewater QB, Louisville 32 Ra'Shede Hageman DT, Minnesota how about the triple in the top ten of OT
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03-26-2014, 08:26 AM	#185
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03-26-2014, 12:11 PM	#186
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Can you imagine having to decide to select Clowney?!? The physical measurable stats are off-the-charts, but is the head case worth it?!?

03-26-2014, 12:51 PM	#187
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by hagan714 you gotta get rid of a big ticket item to fill the draw with many goodies. say 8 mill for graham should just about cover the bill. cut here of last year contract players will pay for a replacement in the draft with change left over to get another all in fun on that one Franchise Tag = Guaranteed Money Players is cut/traded, Guaranteed Money = Dead money 2013 Team Dead Money Rankings

03-26-2014, 04:27 PM	#188
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by TheOak Franchise Tag = Guaranteed Money Players is cut/traded, Guaranteed Money = Dead money 2013 Team Dead Money Rankings nothing is signed so that is the end of dead money, And if a trade was to happen the tag is a mute issue. it would all be handled in the trade for a player like Jimmy. Do you think the saints would want to be the laughing stock of the NFL? Mickey coming out of a deal as big as this looking like a fool? don't think so. besides i would be amazed if we did anything but get Jimmy all wrapped up. graham is a bargain tagged as a TE. As a WR that is another story. We would have time to decide what we are going to do. so till then dead money is a dead topic when it comes to jimmy
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03-26-2014, 04:40 PM	#189
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by hagan714 nothing is signed so that is the end of dead money, And if a trade was to happen the tag is a mute issue. it would all be handled in the trade for a player like Jimmy. other wise the saints would be the laughing stock of the NFL. Mickey coming out of a deal as big as this looking like a fool? don't think so. besides i would be amazed if we did anything but get Jimmy all wrapped up. graham is a bargain tagged as a TE. As a WR that is another story. We would have time to decide what we are going to do. so till then dead money is a dead topic when it comes to jimmy Ignoring the fact that until something is signed you have nothing to trade. Since he has to sign something in order for you to have something to trade, the tag and it's dead money are neither moot or ended. I'm not sure you understand that dead money can not be traded or moved. It's not yo to Loomis, it's governed by the CBA. His hands are tied. At the end of every deal or contract is the League. Each and every contract or trade has to be approved by the League office before it is final.
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03-26-2014, 05:01 PM	#190
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mock Draft Simulator Originally Posted by TheOak Ignoring the fact that until something is signed you have nothing to trade. Since he has to sign something in order for you to have something to trade, the tag and it's dead money are neither moot or ended. I'm not sure you understand that dead money can not be traded or moved. It's not yo to Loomis, it's governed by the CBA. His hands are tied. At the end of every deal or contract is the League. Each and every contract or trade has to be approved by the League office before it is final. look right now we control his football future that is all. that is all the tag does at this point. he can sign it or we can pull it till the due date his options in the open market are few and far in between. till he accepts the contract or appeals it we are all just sitting tight. if he appeals we are again sitting tight till the saints decide what they will do. any ways if a team offers him the same money we are we keep him. They offer more and picks off he goes if that is what the saints decide to do. so we keep him or a team pays him more than we are willing to do and forks over the additional picks If he appeals and wins odds are their will be even fewer teams out there that will go for the 10 mill and picks. so he ends up a saint and we cut players to get under the cap. Or god for bids the saints decide to pull the tag and let him walk. we will have time to make our minds up if the tag is changed. just like jimmy has time to decide if he going to sign it i do not see dead money as an issue with jimmy.
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