What I will take from 13-14 Season

Utah_Saint · 01-11-2014, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Yes someone will, but after watching tape on him every DC on 31 teams will put a physical CB or Safety on him and he want be much of a factor if any. He wants the money he needs to show up every game and make an impact or settle for much less or what he is actually worth. I would not break the bank for him he has a lot of improving to do. I'm not saying he can't improve in those areas but I can't see it overnight.

Teams try to muscle Graham, this isn't something that's just started happening, they've been doing that to him for a couple years now. That was one of the knocks against him when he and Gronk were competing, he was more athletic with better hands but Gronc was tougher and stronger. There's only a few corners and safetys in the league that can keep Graham clamped down for an entire game. You need someone that's big enough to push him around and yet fast enough to keep up with him when he gets by. And the team also has to have a second big defensive back that can cover Colston.

It doesn't happen often though, he's still got the best receiving numbers of any TE in the league. I think what's been happening this year is the guys around him aren't stepping up when he's bracketed. In some games, we're missing that other option.

Just my opinion.

saintsfan1976 · 01-11-2014, 10:03 PM

Originally Posted by AllSaints

Negatives

Brees - on road not good

Jimmy - Contact on line he is done

Strief - TERRIBLE

Jenkins - Lower shoulder tackles im tired of them...

Positives

D-line - Awesome

Secondary Starters Next Year - Bush KV

Robinson RB Ingram RB - 2 headed monster !

Joe Morgan and Stills ! ! ! ! !

Brees. I'll give you.

Jimmy... OK

Streif did better than most RT in the nfl

Jenkins is a miscast that hasn't made the jump

D line is solid.

Love bush attitude and Kv has the moxie

Still need depth at DB and OL

lumm0x · 01-11-2014, 10:23 PM

Transition tag him. Let the market set his price and we have first right of refusal.

nycsaintfan · 01-11-2014, 11:32 PM

I think a lot of you are over reacting to Graham and the game he just had today. I'll agree that he was never the same after the performance in New England. However, as much as I love Marques Colston I think we are lacking a true number one receiver. I still think there is a place for Colston on this team. Morgan, Stills and Toon are still unproven and both Moore and Meachum are more than likely on the way out. A part of me is still willing to see if Moore has something left, as he always was a reliable receiver. Injuries IMO really hurt his season.

Graham is one of those match up nightmares that works well in this offense. I think we are a true impact receiver away from maybe taking a Aqib Talib or Richard Sherman off him in coverage.

We need more guys that can create separation both at the line of scrimmage and down field. We just don't have that right now.

Boutte · 01-11-2014, 11:39 PM

16 touch downs. He'll get his money.

01-11-2014, 10:41 PM	#1
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season Originally Posted by halloween 65 Yes someone will, but after watching tape on him every DC on 31 teams will put a physical CB or Safety on him and he want be much of a factor if any. He wants the money he needs to show up every game and make an impact or settle for much less or what he is actually worth. I would not break the bank for him he has a lot of improving to do. I'm not saying he can't improve in those areas but I can't see it overnight. Teams try to muscle Graham, this isn't something that's just started happening, they've been doing that to him for a couple years now. That was one of the knocks against him when he and Gronk were competing, he was more athletic with better hands but Gronc was tougher and stronger. There's only a few corners and safetys in the league that can keep Graham clamped down for an entire game. You need someone that's big enough to push him around and yet fast enough to keep up with him when he gets by. And the team also has to have a second big defensive back that can cover Colston. It doesn't happen often though, he's still got the best receiving numbers of any TE in the league. I think what's been happening this year is the guys around him aren't stepping up when he's bracketed. In some games, we're missing that other option. Just my opinion.

01-11-2014, 10:03 PM	#2
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 10,972 Blog Entries: 3	Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season Originally Posted by AllSaints Negatives Brees - on road not good Jimmy - Contact on line he is done Strief - TERRIBLE Jenkins - Lower shoulder tackles im tired of them... Positives D-line - Awesome Secondary Starters Next Year - Bush KV Robinson RB Ingram RB - 2 headed monster ! Joe Morgan and Stills ! ! ! ! ! Brees. I'll give you. Jimmy... OK Streif did better than most RT in the nfl Jenkins is a miscast that hasn't made the jump D line is solid. Love bush attitude and Kv has the moxie Still need depth at DB and OL

01-11-2014, 10:23 PM	#3
lumm0x Resident antediluvian Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,026	Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season Transition tag him. Let the market set his price and we have first right of refusal.

01-11-2014, 11:32 PM	#4
nycsaintfan 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 165	Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season I think a lot of you are over reacting to Graham and the game he just had today. I'll agree that he was never the same after the performance in New England. However, as much as I love Marques Colston I think we are lacking a true number one receiver. I still think there is a place for Colston on this team. Morgan, Stills and Toon are still unproven and both Moore and Meachum are more than likely on the way out. A part of me is still willing to see if Moore has something left, as he always was a reliable receiver. Injuries IMO really hurt his season. Graham is one of those match up nightmares that works well in this offense. I think we are a true impact receiver away from maybe taking a Aqib Talib or Richard Sherman off him in coverage. We need more guys that can create separation both at the line of scrimmage and down field. We just don't have that right now.
nycsaintfan 100th Post Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 165

01-11-2014, 11:39 PM	#5
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: What I will take from 13-14 Season 16 touch downs. He'll get his money.

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