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hennr 01-11-2014 10:28 PM

what positions to draft with 27th an 59th picks
 
cornerbackwith 27th we need to move white back to nickle.With the 59th pick a saftey as either harper or jenkins will not be back.with the 3rd pick best OT on draft board as brown will be gone an need a good back up to armstead an strief.with the 4th rd pick best De to replace tom johnson.With the 5th best Wr on draft board as either moore or meachem not back an morgan coming off injury.With the 6th round pick a kicker as our veteran kicker will be age 37 if resigned the only other kicker on roster is dimke out of illinois.:help::help::bng:

Showtime5 01-11-2014 10:49 PM

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I think we go WR with the 1st pick. After today we see that our defense can be stout. If Kelvin Benjamin falls to us , I honk we take him. With the 2nd round , I want Deone Buccanon if he is there or a DB

W. Kovacs 01-11-2014 10:51 PM

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Be true to the board, then address needs via trade and FA.

Drafting by need tends to lead to overreach and disappointment.

In my opinion, of course.

Danno 01-11-2014 10:51 PM

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Depends on who we sign in free agency

hennr 01-11-2014 10:51 PM

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The 7th rd pick was used for haralson the olb from 49ers who played well until hurt an the saints should try to resign him.

nycsaintfan 01-11-2014 10:52 PM

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The draft will be dictated by what they do in free agency. Both Greer and Robinson should be back in the fold with White and Lewis already on the roster. I think they will bring Jenkins back as well. What is the prognosis on Greer? Will he be back before July?

I'd like to see the Saints continue to build both offensive and defensive lines. Linebacker is also must draft position.

I agree that wide receiver needs to be addressed at some point. I am wondering if they will restructure Colston's deal and Brees? I think they are going to have to because they are going to have to pay Jimmy.

Although I think Brees will be fine, and should have at least three more years in him. At one point or another they are going to have to address the position.

Both Running back and tight end are in good shape... as long as Jimmy is taken care of. I still think they can use a good blocking tight end.

hennr 01-11-2014 10:59 PM

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Robinson was the 2010 32nd pick an i read to be in good shape for 2014 but to me white as good as him an we need a shut down corner Greer is done look for him to retire a saint.

TheBallHawk 01-11-2014 11:21 PM

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From watching the game today, here's what I took from it:
1) Khiry Robinson is an absolute beast, and I don't know why it took so long for SP to give him a lot of opportunities. We'll be set with PT, Khiry, Sproles, Ingram.
2) We need another pass rushing LB to play opposite of Galette. By getting pressure with just galette, cam, hicks, and another pass rushing olb, it will definitely help our secondary.
3) Rafael Bush should start with Vaccaro next year. I see us resigning Jenkins in the offseason.
4) I loved the improvement from Armstead at LT but we need a new RT and a C if we don't keep De La Puente.

On a side note, I would be interested to see if SP would draft DeAnthony Thomas from Oregon. I see him as a young, faster Sproles.

dueceloose 01-11-2014 11:29 PM

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We may not have that many needs this draft due to majority of the team is on ir lol Butler will be a good addition hopefully not to mention Rufus Johnson. I first off want another CB just watching how much lewis being sidelined effected us. WR is a reach IMO with Colston, Stills, Morgan and Moore. Not sure what we do with Toon but I'd draft a Jeffrey/Josh Gordan type player IMO.

In Sean/Loomis we trust.

cobbraking 01-11-2014 11:38 PM

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I think we can get Antonio Cromartie from free agency this year image to good CB's on our team I would say asomugha but he should've came when we wanted him but Cromartie will be a Good sign

hennr 01-12-2014 12:01 AM

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Toon could hot hold on to the ball.there was a young WR on ir all year named givens about same sixe as Toon just not draft pick.He had a very good camp.If Toon keeps droping the Ball he sould be cut.Moore age 31 Meachem 30 an colston 31 next year an Morgan coming off a bad injury.i feel we need to draft a WR just not on day one or two of the draft to much other areas of need.

GeauxNOGeaux 01-12-2014 12:10 AM

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We need a new kicker

hennr 01-12-2014 12:16 AM

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Now if we were just to be gave some compensatory picks even the ones at the end of the 7th round with the great job the scouts do with the ufda rookies most 7th rd picks are saints scout picks.

NoZone504 01-12-2014 12:23 AM

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We need to grab Shazier out of OSU..Kid can ball

QBREES9 01-14-2014 08:25 PM

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Best player available

Schmohams 01-14-2014 08:51 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by cobbraking (Post 572708)
I think we can get Antonio Cromartie from free agency this year image to good CB's on our team I would say asomugha but he should've came when we wanted him but Cromartie will be a Good sign

At this point Greer is just as good as Cromartie

ScottF 01-14-2014 09:12 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hennr (Post 572738)
Now if we were just to be gave some compensatory picks even the ones at the end of the 7th round with the great job the scouts do with the ufda rookies most 7th rd picks are saints scout picks.

maybe, for Bushrod, but that would be late

what did we get for Ivory? 4th, 5th?

voodooido 01-14-2014 09:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 573835)
At this point Greer is just as good as Cromartie

I think Greer is better. Greer should be back early in the season but PRob will be gone. The dude sucks. As for WR I believe Moore is gone. Way to much money tied up when he hardly played this year.

OL, CB, WR, OLB, S in that order. Kicker will come in FA im sure.

Bro KV 01-15-2014 02:00 AM

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What about Jason Verrett?

Euphoria 01-15-2014 10:45 AM

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I can't believe there are still some of you who actually believe we draft based on position of need.

BEST PLAYER AVAILABLE...

The problem with drafting on need is we are forced to take a certain player and they may not even be the top 3 at their position. We'd still end up in the same position we are in... still in need of an upgrade.

hagan714 01-15-2014 10:59 AM

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saints pull a ditka and go all out for

Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State


if not go with BPA objective as that is. we are not desperate




alleycat_126 01-15-2014 11:23 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hennr (Post 572644)
cornerbackwith 27th we need to move white back to nickle.With the 59th pick a saftey as either harper or jenkins will not be back.with the 3rd pick best OT on draft board as brown will be gone an need a good back up to armstead an strief.with the 4th rd pick best De to replace tom johnson.With the 5th best Wr on draft board as either moore or meachem not back an morgan coming off injury.With the 6th round pick a kicker as our veteran kicker will be age 37 if resigned the only other kicker on roster is dimke out of illinois.:help::help::bng:

I got one problem with this who's playing Lb....

alleycat_126 01-15-2014 11:29 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime5 (Post 572668)
I think we go WR with the 1st pick. After today we see that our defense can be stout. If Kelvin Benjamin falls to us , I honk we take him. With the 2nd round , I want Deone Buccanon if he is there or a DB

There's no way the sell out on a wr in the first round. Build on the success of your defense this season by making them even better, another corner in FA, cut all the dead weight, that includes Greer, Harper, Jenkins.... Vic Beasley 1st round, FS Calvin Pryor 2cnd round .....OLB 3rd round....OT fourth round, WR fifth round, and kicker round out the draft....

Mr.Riaton 01-15-2014 12:03 PM

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What about IAQ at saftey? Is he still with us?

hennr 01-15-2014 12:24 PM

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IAQ was cut right before seahawks game To sign jordan pugh.

rezburna 01-15-2014 12:26 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Schmohams (Post 573835)
At this point Greer is just as good as Cromartie

Nah.

rezburna 01-15-2014 12:30 PM

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We just need an all around, dynamic playmaker in the 1st. The need for corner can be taken care of in free agency.

Schmohams 01-15-2014 01:08 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 573843)
maybe, for Bushrod, but that would be late

what did we get for Ivory? 4th, 5th?

We traded Ivory for a 4th. But that is different, he was under contract for another year via signed restricted free agency. Compensatory picks are for unrestricted FA who leave.

hennr 01-15-2014 11:01 PM

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I looked at saints draft site it had saints picking 27th in first round an 58th not 59th in roumd two.It had Saints picking 91st in 3rd round.Rounds 4 thru 6 depend starting at end of rd 3 how the nfl hands out comp, picks.So with no Saints trades saints have 27th-58th-91st picks.If these three picks turn out as good or almost as good as last years 15th vaccaro-72nd armstead-82nd jenkins then Saints take another step to returning to superbowl before Drews age clock ticks down.

Bro KV 01-15-2014 11:10 PM

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I am loving Shazier with our first pick

hennr 01-15-2014 11:17 PM

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The Play greer was hurt on was a heck of a play by him.But it looked real bad an from what little i could find i do not think he will be back.white is ok for a few games as a starter best at nickle so it depends on Robinson he was a 32nd pick in 2010.Did ryan see enough off him to tell before he got hurt.Bush played well but if Jenkins not resigned if ryan thinks robinson not a upgrade on white then look for a saftey an cornerback with the first two picks.If brown resigns for not much above vet min an strief resigned at fair price i look for a Wr with 91st pick if they not resigned the a OT with 91st pick.

Rugby Saint II 01-17-2014 10:03 PM

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Just let P Rob walk. Draft corner and safety. Oh yeah, cut Jenkins.

jeanpierre 01-17-2014 10:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBallHawk (Post 572694)
From watching the game today, here's what I took from it:
1) Khiry Robinson is an absolute beast, and I don't know why it took so long for SP to give him a lot of opportunities. We'll be set with PT, Khiry, Sproles, Ingram.

Trust - you don't just give it away; pass protection, gotta know it...

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBallHawk (Post 572694)
2) We need another pass rushing LB to play opposite of Galette. By getting pressure with just galette, cam, hicks, and another pass rushing olb, it will definitely help our secondary.

Definitely.

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBallHawk (Post 572694)
3) Rafael Bush should start with Vaccaro next year. I see us resigning Jenkins in the offseason.

Hated drafting Jenkins (wanted Clay Matthews); then he grew on me, but I thought he'd be a better second CB; the mistackles, the mistackles, oh the mistackles - best of luck, j

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBallHawk (Post 572694)
4) I loved the improvement from Armstead at LT but we need a new RT and a C if we don't keep De La Puente.

Alex Mack, C for the Cleveland Browns at NFL.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheBallHawk (Post 572694)
On a side note, I would be interested to see if SP would draft DeAnthony Thomas from Oregon. I see him as a young, faster Sproles.

If he were there in the fifth~sixth round as some mocks have 'em, SP replaces Sproles...

lee909 01-17-2014 11:18 PM

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Until the combine its difficult to have any idea who goes when.The top picks are likely to be the same but the results of the Shorts-Tshirt wars will chsnge everything from the late 1st to 3rd round picks.

hennr 01-17-2014 11:34 PM

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Hope 2014 ufda class as good as 2013.like the 2013 group more than some past drafts.

hagan714 01-20-2014 07:31 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by lee909 (Post 574415)
Until the combine its difficult to have any idea who goes when.The top picks are likely to be the same but the results of the Shorts-Tshirt wars will chsnge everything from the late 1st to 3rd round picks.


i think the combine mucks up the picture for so many. thats why the mid round rounds of the draft are always loaded with solid players.

Rell&Gold 01-20-2014 11:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by rezburna (Post 573964)
We just need an all around, dynamic playmaker in the 1st. The need for corner can be taken care of in free agency.

For how long a couple years

Jack Vegas 01-20-2014 11:49 PM

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Starting to feel like DB is a good way to go with the first pick. If we draft a corner, we have insurance against Greer or P-Rob struggling to come back from injury. If we draft a safety we can more easily say goodbye to Harper and Jenkins.

The other thing would be an impact pass rusher at OLB. I like Galette, but if you want to honestly look at his performance he was inconsistent game-to-game. He had 12 sacks, but he had 3 of them in 1 game, 2 in another. What's more, he had 7 games this season without a sack....and 6 of those 7 were on the road. And he didn't do jack squat in either of the playoff games. I am not saying he sucks, but it would be nice to have an impact pass rusher at that spot. Butler is still a complete unknown and Haralson's injury was a bad one. We are one injury away from being in a real bad spot there.

lee909 01-21-2014 12:42 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 574960)
i think the combine mucks up the picture for so many. thats why the mid round rounds of the draft are always loaded with solid players.

Completely agree
Id much rather scout of game tape than go by the combine numbers.
I often watch parts of the combine while playing xbox or doing other things and keep a eye on it but iys pretty pointless baring the interviews imo.Running .1 of a second quicker might sound great but if you dint anticipated the snap and read the game quick enough its pointless

SaintFanInATLHELL 01-21-2014 01:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Showtime5 (Post 572668)
I think we go WR with the 1st pick. After today we see that our defense can be stout. If Kelvin Benjamin falls to us , I honk we take him. With the 2nd round , I want Deone Buccanon if he is there or a DB

Why exactly would we need another WR? IMHO the only offensive position we would need to draft that high would be for a bookend tackle to Armstead.

DBs and LBs dropped like flies this year. The team can never have enough.

SFIAH


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