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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; The salary cap will once again be a hurdle for the New Orleans Saints in 2014. They're already $12.5 million over the projected cap of $126.6 million, according to ESPN's John Clayton. And that's even before signing unrestricted tight end ...

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Old 01-13-2014, 08:53 AM   #1
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A look at Saints' 2014 roster decisions

The salary cap will once again be a hurdle for the New Orleans Saints in 2014. They're already $12.5 million over the projected cap of $126.6 million, according to ESPN's John Clayton. And that's even before signing unrestricted tight end Jimmy Graham, who will certainly become the highest-paid tight end in NFL history.

Recent history suggests the Saints will still find a way to keep their core players and even add one or two key free agent signings. But it will require both some creative restructuring of contracts and some difficult decisions to part ways with some longtime veterans.

Here's a breakdown of some of the key decisions looming this offseason:

FREE AGENTS:

Unrestricted free agent starters: TE Jimmy Graham, RT Zach Strief, C Brian de la Puente, S Malcolm Jenkins, OLB Parys Haralson, K Shayne Graham.

Unrestricted free agent reserves: WR Robert Meachem, OT Charles Brown, QB Luke McCown, LB Jonathan Vilma, LB Will Herring, LB Ramon Humber, LB Keyunta Dawson, DE Kenyon Coleman, S Jordan Pugh

Restricted free agents: FB Jed Collins, WR Joe Morgan, S Rafael Bush, DE Tom Johnson

Thoughts: First of all, this is not a bad list, with only four full-time players on it. Teams, including the Saints, have faced much worse in past years.

The only no-brainer who will definitely be re-signed is Graham. He will be back at any cost, even if it means a fight over his franchise tag designation (tight end vs. wide receiver). It would be a win-win for both sides if they would avoid the franchise tag altogether and structure a cap-friendly long-term deal. But it's obviously possible that the negotiations may go on longer than expected, because Saints general manager Mickey Loomis and agent Jimmy Sexton will be breaking new ground on this deal.

After Graham, I would put Strief, de la Puente and Jenkins in the same boat. I think the Saints like all of them (Strief and Jenkins are both captains) and would very much like to have all of them back at the right price. But I wouldn't be shocked to see the Saints let any of them go if they get bigger offers elsewhere (like Scott Fujita, Jonathan Goodwin, Carl Nicks, Jermon Bushrod, etc., from years past).

I could also see the Saints bringing back guys like Haralson, Meachem and a handful of others from this list if the price is bare bones.

Another interesting name on this list is kicker Shayne Graham. He looked like a lock for a 2014 roster spot after being a playoff hero in Round 1. Then he missed both of his field-goal attempts at Seattle. I still like his chances of coming back and at least competing for the job. All kickers will miss occasionally, but I've got to think the Saints liked what they saw from him as a cool-headed veteran with a lot of experience under his belt.

As for the restricted free agents, I could see all of them coming back -- especially Collins and Bush. They might have to give those guys second-round tenders, though, which will probably cost more than $2 million each.

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Well done. ESPN doesn't deserve Mike Triplett.
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I would put Jenkins higher on that list. The fact that he can move between S and CB helps him plus his upside may be realized sooner rather than later.
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I would let Jenkins walk, walk, walk.
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I would let Jenkins walk, walk, walk.
Why? Do you think he will want to much $$$. With a decent contract he is still better than 75% of the Safeties in the league. Take teams like San Fran, Seattle and Carolina and their safeties are helped by those D-Lines/LBs. Of course they look pretty. And Seattle has better CBs that help their Safeties way too much. Put Jenk on one of those teams and he would be a superstar.
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Why? Do you think he will want to much $$$. With a decent contract he is still better than 75% of the Safeties in the league. Take teams like San Fran, Seattle and Carolina and their safeties are helped by those D-Lines/LBs. Of course they look pretty. And Seattle has better CBs that help their Safeties way too much. Put Jenk on one of those teams and he would be a superstar.
Thank You. Malcolm Jenkins is far from the problem on our team. Getting rid of him will only cause other problems. We need him back.
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Why? Do you think he will want to much $$$. With a decent contract he is still better than 75% of the Safeties in the league. Take teams like San Fran, Seattle and Carolina and their safeties are helped by those D-Lines/LBs. Of course they look pretty. And Seattle has better CBs that help their Safeties way too much. Put Jenk on one of those teams and he would be a superstar.
Jenkins' mistackles will be his undoing; can't have the backstop whiffing that much...
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Why? Do you think he will want to much $$$. With a decent contract he is still better than 75% of the Safeties in the league. Take teams like San Fran, Seattle and Carolina and their safeties are helped by those D-Lines/LBs. Of course they look pretty. And Seattle has better CBs that help their Safeties way too much. Put Jenk on one of those teams and he would be a superstar.
I don't think so!! He wouldn't even come close!! Bad comparing him to Earl Thomas. Thomas is a great FS, Jenkins really isn't FS material.
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I don't think so!! He wouldn't even come close!! Bad comparing him to Earl Thomas. Thomas is a great FS, Jenkins really isn't FS material.
Earl thomas is really good but I wouldn't say great. When he's not running through receivers backs to make plays he's usually cleaning up other peoples tackles. There is nothing wrong with that but when you get him one on one he is nowhere near as formidable as people make him out to be. There are even times where he looks a little like harper out there whiffing on one on one tackles.

Ed reed was a great safety, Rod woodson was a great safety, Darren sharper was a great saftey. Earl Thomas is a really good safety playing on a team stacked with dline and db talent. Just watch the san fran game this weekend. If he gets caught on boldin, crabtree or davis one on one you will see what I'm talking about.
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Why? Do you think he will want to much $$$. With a decent contract he is still better than 75% of the Safeties in the league. Take teams like San Fran, Seattle and Carolina and their safeties are helped by those D-Lines/LBs. Of course they look pretty. And Seattle has better CBs that help their Safeties way too much. Put Jenk on one of those teams and he would be a superstar.
Christ, how many times do I have to post the stuff I am going to post...

Jenkins is among the worst safeties in the NFL. How some fans that watch every game miss the fact he never make plays in coverage and can't tackle is remarkable. Jenkins won't be cut, he is a free agent and shouldn't be back.

Jenkins is awful but don't take my word for it...

Here is PFF from 2011: "Jenkins graded 42nd overall, or totally middle of the road, with a negative grade. There's 64 starting safeties in the NFL"

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores for Saints Players in 2011 (Defense & Special Teams) | February | 2012 Articles


Here is PFF from 2012: Jenkins was ranked 88th out of 88 grade safeties. Thats right Jenkins was the worst safety in the league...

Saints Nation: Pro Football Focus Scores For Saints Players in 2012 (Defense & Special Teams) | February | 2013 Articles


Here is a list of all FA safeties available with their grades by PFF(2013):

Out of 46 FA safeties Jenkins is 41st with a -6.0 rating. Thats just the FAs... He is trash, Harper is more useful than Jenkins...FFS

https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...gent-safeties/
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