This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future

01-18-2014, 02:58 PM

Yeah, I don't think Brees' age is a big factor here. I could see him playing until 42-43 easily. He hasn't taken very many hits over his career and he doesn't throw hard so his arm/shoulder isn't just suddenly going to give out. It's going to probably come down to those everyday aches and pains you start getting when you get close to 40 (unfortunately I know that one firsthand) and how willing he is to put up with it.

As for this offseason, I am pretty sure I have said this before but we don't need massive changes. We are probably going to have to let a few guys go for cap reasons, say goodbye to players like Greer and Moore. But any notions of blowing up the offensive line and running back situation is really overreacting. We were one last-minute drive away from winning the division, 30 yards away from potentially tying the game against the Seahawks. This is a very good team, we're just a little spoiled.

Danno · 01-18-2014, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Yeah, I don't think Brees' age is a big factor here. I could see him playing until 42-43 easily. He hasn't taken very many hits over his career and he doesn't throw hard so his arm/shoulder isn't just suddenly going to give out. It's going to probably come down to those everyday aches and pains you start getting when you get close to 40 (unfortunately I know that one firsthand) and how willing he is to put up with it.

As for this offseason, I am pretty sure I have said this before but we don't need massive changes. We are probably going to have to let a few guys go for cap reasons, say goodbye to players like Greer and Moore. But any notions of blowing up the offensive line and running back situation is really overreacting. We were one last-minute drive away from winning the division, 30 yards away from potentially tying the game against the Seahawks. This is a very good team, we're just a little spoiled.

Yes yes yes and yes!!!!

Had we won the division I have no doubt we'd be in the Superbowl. No doubt in my mind at all.

I can name 2 blown calls that would have given us that one win we needed to capture the division.

So I'm convinced we were one play (or bad call) away from a Superbowl appearance.

You don't blow a team like that up, you tweak it a bit and reload. Nearly every star player we have is either in his prime or on the upswing.

We only have 3 or 4 key players long in the tooth. Colston, and maybe PT, Sproles, and Harper. And really only Colston is one I'd classify as difficult to replace.

jnormand · 01-18-2014, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Drews replacement is in high school.

Why do people keep trying to replace Drew 5 years earlier than necessary?

Thank you! Sheesh! I'm not even looking at QB except whether to re-sign our primary backup or let him leave and give the kid a shot at the #2 spot.

ScottF · 01-18-2014, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Drews replacement is in high school.

Why do people keep trying to replace Drew 5 years earlier than necessary?

I hope he doesn't try to hang on too long like those two guys playing tomorrow
those old bas***s are embarassing themselves

rezburna · 01-18-2014, 07:26 PM

I doubt Griffin is ever a good player in the NFL. I don't know where some of this optimism comes from. Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane?

NonieT · 01-18-2014, 10:13 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I doubt Griffin is ever a good player in the NFL. I don't know where some of this optimism comes from. Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane?

Did you?

|Mitch| · 01-18-2014, 10:24 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane?

He did alright

As a senior in the 2012 season, he started all nine games he played in and was given an honorable-mention spot on the All-Conference USA team. He finished the season ranked 2nd in C-USA in passing yards per game and yards of total offense per game, and 5th in passing efficiency. Griffin threw for 300-plus yards 5 times with two 400-plus yard games, and twice set the school single-game passing record. He set the record the first time with 466 yards and a career-best 5 touchdown passes vs UAB and surpassed that with 476 yards and 4 TDs vs Rice. Griffin holds the Tulane career records in pass attempts, completions, and completion percentage. He is 2nd in passing yards, passing yards per game, pass attempts per game, completions per game, and 300-yard passing games. Griffin finished his college career with 9026 yards, 56 touchdowns, and 35 interceptions

rezburna · 01-18-2014, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Did you?

Yeah. I like Tulane. Its a reason he went undrafted.

rezburna · 01-19-2014, 12:01 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

He did alright

Couldn't even make all conference in Conference USA, yet he's the heir to Brees. Please somebody, explain the optimism.....logically.

Mr.Riaton · 01-19-2014, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by rezburna

Couldn't even make all conference in Conference USA, yet he's the heir to Brees. Please somebody, explain the optimism.....logically.

The most logical explanation for my optimism is the fact that Sean thought highly enough of this guy to release Tez Wilson to make room for Griffin on the roster to avoid the Rams from signing him. Apparently other teams see something in this kid also. The fact that the Saints are very successful in grooming undrafted nobodies into stars makes me optimistic when I see them go that far to keep a player...just my thoughts.

01-18-2014, 02:58 PM	#11
Threaded by Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254 Rating: (0 votes - average) Yeah, I don't think Brees' age is a big factor here. I could see him playing until 42-43 easily. He hasn't taken very many hits over his career and he doesn't throw hard so his arm/shoulder isn't just suddenly going to give out. It's going to probably come down to those everyday aches and pains you start getting when you get close to 40 (unfortunately I know that one firsthand) and how willing he is to put up with it. As for this offseason, I am pretty sure I have said this before but we don't need massive changes. We are probably going to have to let a few guys go for cap reasons, say goodbye to players like Greer and Moore. But any notions of blowing up the offensive line and running back situation is really overreacting. We were one last-minute drive away from winning the division, 30 yards away from potentially tying the game against the Seahawks. This is a very good team, we're just a little spoiled. Danno and SaintLeonard like this.
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01-18-2014, 03:22 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Yeah, I don't think Brees' age is a big factor here. I could see him playing until 42-43 easily. He hasn't taken very many hits over his career and he doesn't throw hard so his arm/shoulder isn't just suddenly going to give out. It's going to probably come down to those everyday aches and pains you start getting when you get close to 40 (unfortunately I know that one firsthand) and how willing he is to put up with it. As for this offseason, I am pretty sure I have said this before but we don't need massive changes. We are probably going to have to let a few guys go for cap reasons, say goodbye to players like Greer and Moore. But any notions of blowing up the offensive line and running back situation is really overreacting. We were one last-minute drive away from winning the division, 30 yards away from potentially tying the game against the Seahawks. This is a very good team, we're just a little spoiled. Yes yes yes and yes!!!! Had we won the division I have no doubt we'd be in the Superbowl. No doubt in my mind at all. I can name 2 blown calls that would have given us that one win we needed to capture the division. So I'm convinced we were one play (or bad call) away from a Superbowl appearance. You don't blow a team like that up, you tweak it a bit and reload. Nearly every star player we have is either in his prime or on the upswing. We only have 3 or 4 key players long in the tooth. Colston, and maybe PT, Sproles, and Harper. And really only Colston is one I'd classify as difficult to replace. Utah_Saint likes this.

01-18-2014, 06:21 PM	#13
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,661	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by Danno Drews replacement is in high school. Why do people keep trying to replace Drew 5 years earlier than necessary? Thank you! Sheesh! I'm not even looking at QB except whether to re-sign our primary backup or let him leave and give the kid a shot at the #2 spot. pumpkindriver likes this.

01-18-2014, 06:30 PM	#14
ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by Danno Drews replacement is in high school. Why do people keep trying to replace Drew 5 years earlier than necessary? I hope he doesn't try to hang on too long like those two guys playing tomorrow those old bas***s are embarassing themselves

01-18-2014, 07:26 PM	#15
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future I doubt Griffin is ever a good player in the NFL. I don't know where some of this optimism comes from. Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane?

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01-18-2014, 10:13 PM	#16
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by rezburna I doubt Griffin is ever a good player in the NFL. I don't know where some of this optimism comes from. Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane? Did you?
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01-18-2014, 10:24 PM	#17
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by rezburna Did anybody ever watch him at Tulane? He did alright As a senior in the 2012 season, he started all nine games he played in and was given an honorable-mention spot on the All-Conference USA team. He finished the season ranked 2nd in C-USA in passing yards per game and yards of total offense per game, and 5th in passing efficiency. Griffin threw for 300-plus yards 5 times with two 400-plus yard games, and twice set the school single-game passing record. He set the record the first time with 466 yards and a career-best 5 touchdown passes vs UAB and surpassed that with 476 yards and 4 TDs vs Rice. Griffin holds the Tulane career records in pass attempts, completions, and completion percentage. He is 2nd in passing yards, passing yards per game, pass attempts per game, completions per game, and 300-yard passing games. Griffin finished his college career with 9026 yards, 56 touchdowns, and 35 interceptions

01-18-2014, 11:58 PM	#18
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by NonieT Did you? Yeah. I like Tulane. Its a reason he went undrafted.

01-19-2014, 12:01 AM	#19
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,903	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| He did alright Couldn't even make all conference in Conference USA, yet he's the heir to Brees. Please somebody, explain the optimism.....logically.

01-19-2014, 10:35 PM	#20
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,264	Re: This offseason critical for the New Orleans Saints' immediate future Originally Posted by rezburna Couldn't even make all conference in Conference USA, yet he's the heir to Brees. Please somebody, explain the optimism.....logically. The most logical explanation for my optimism is the fact that Sean thought highly enough of this guy to release Tez Wilson to make room for Griffin on the roster to avoid the Rams from signing him. Apparently other teams see something in this kid also. The fact that the Saints are very successful in grooming undrafted nobodies into stars makes me optimistic when I see them go that far to keep a player...just my thoughts.

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