47 years ago today, the first New Orleans Saint was signed

Boutte · 01-30-2014, 07:22 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

That is what I keep hearing and you can take it as you wish but I just do not see it. I see a lot of hypocrisy and misunderstanding when it comes to Archie and when compared to Drew coming from a passer stand point.

Fine, Archie got sacked a lot.

He didn't have the receivers.
He didn't pass as much and when he did he was an interception machine.

Completion % as a Saint
Archie 55.4
Drew 67.3

Interception %
Archie 4.7%
Drew 2.5%

If Archie has an offensive line he would have passed more and thrown more INTs.

Archie compared to Wilson.. Wilson was sacked more this season.
Archie Manning sack 9.3% INT% 4.7
Russell Wilson (2013) sack 9.8% INT 2.2%

If that doesn't clearly show what i am saying maybe this will.

Archie Manning as a Saint vs Oiler

Sack %
Saints 9.3%
Oilers 15.1%

INT%
Saints 4.7%
Oilers 6.6%

Archie got worse after he left the oh so horrible New Orleans Saints to go go the Houston Oilers... the Saints got better.

Minnesota before Manning 8-8, with Manning 3-13, after Manning 7-9
Houston Oilers before Manning 7-9, with Manning 1-8, after Manning 3-13

New Orleans Saints 1980/1981 with Manning 4-23
New Orleans Saints 1982/1983 with Stabler 11-11

I know i am committing a mortal and nonvenial sin but it was what it was.

Hate to say it Oak but you don't know what you're talking about. Not only didn't you see Archie or the Saints teams of that era. In fact you didn't see that era of NFL football.

Oh and by the way, Kenny Stabler was a horrible QB by that point in his career. If Bum had kept Manning he might have ended his career as a winner instead of the pathetic joke he became.

01-30-2014, 07:22 PM	#7
Boutte Site Donor Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Belle Chasse Posts: 1,701	Re: 47 years ago today, the first New Orleans Saint was signed Originally Posted by TheOak That is what I keep hearing and you can take it as you wish but I just do not see it. I see a lot of hypocrisy and misunderstanding when it comes to Archie and when compared to Drew coming from a passer stand point. Fine, Archie got sacked a lot. He didn't have the receivers. He didn't pass as much and when he did he was an interception machine. Completion % as a Saint Archie 55.4 Drew 67.3 Interception % Archie 4.7% Drew 2.5% If Archie has an offensive line he would have passed more and thrown more INTs. Archie compared to Wilson.. Wilson was sacked more this season. Archie Manning sack 9.3% INT% 4.7 Russell Wilson (2013) sack 9.8% INT 2.2% If that doesn't clearly show what i am saying maybe this will. Archie Manning as a Saint vs Oiler Sack % Saints 9.3% Oilers 15.1% INT% Saints 4.7% Oilers 6.6% Archie got worse after he left the oh so horrible New Orleans Saints to go go the Houston Oilers... the Saints got better. Minnesota before Manning 8-8, with Manning 3-13, after Manning 7-9 Houston Oilers before Manning 7-9, with Manning 1-8, after Manning 3-13 New Orleans Saints 1980/1981 with Manning 4-23 New Orleans Saints 1982/1983 with Stabler 11-11 I know i am committing a mortal and nonvenial sin but it was what it was. Hate to say it Oak but you don't know what you're talking about. Not only didn't you see Archie or the Saints teams of that era. In fact you didn't see that era of NFL football. Oh and by the way, Kenny Stabler was a horrible QB by that point in his career. If Bum had kept Manning he might have ended his career as a winner instead of the pathetic joke he became.

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