Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma)

Budsdrinker · 02-14-2014, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader.

Will Smith
Johnathan Vilma
Scott Fujita
Curtis Lofton
Scott Shanle
....
..
..

They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012.

Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints.

TheOak · 02-14-2014, 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Budsdrinker

Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints.

Correct, Lofton was the only oddball out.

He was asked to do many things, and he did them. But not successfully.

Will Smith spent the season on IR, never made a home game to support his team on the sidelines. I know because I have him on my Instagram and I can show you what he was doing on game days. That is no leader, nor is it a 10m a year player.

exile · 02-13-2014, 09:44 AM

The Raiders.

Oakland Raiders beat writer Vic Tafur said it is possible the team could show interest in veteran SS Roman Harper, who was released by the New Orleans Saints. However, he said he really could see the team showing an interest in DE Will Smith, also released by the Saints. Smith has a history with Raiders head coach Dennis Allen - See more at: Raiders | Could show interest in Will Smith - NFL Hot off the Wire

ScottF · 02-13-2014, 09:47 AM

Originally Posted by exile

The Raiders.

Oakland Raiders beat writer Vic Tafur said it is possible the team could show interest in veteran SS Roman Harper, who was released by the New Orleans Saints. However, he said he really could see the team showing an interest in DE Will Smith, also released by the Saints. Smith has a history with Raiders head coach Dennis Allen - See more at: Raiders | Could show interest in Will Smith - NFL Hot off the Wire

reunited with Young and Porter

saintsfan1976 · 02-12-2014, 06:33 PM

Jack, you're being hard on Smith.

The guy was above average and healthy throughout his career. Charles Grant, however, was a waste of space.

Rell&Gold · 02-13-2014, 12:33 AM

Originally Posted by saintsfan1976

Jack, you're being hard on Smith.

The guy was above average and healthy throughout his career. Charles Grant, however, was a waste of space.

He was average at best only produced 2 double digit sack seasons better run stopper than pass rusher

TheEnigma · 02-12-2014, 06:37 PM

Surprised we cut Greer. Now we really need a CB. Not surprised by the others though.

halloween 65 · 02-12-2014, 07:12 PM

I think Vilma and Smith were overdue, I do thank them for the good years, they were solid. Harper, I like him and if he can get resigned to a lower pay I wouldn't mind resigning him but if he leaves who will we talk about as much on this board. Greer, I would like him back at a lower rate but alot depends on how he heals if no one is brought back thanks to them also.

NonieT · 02-12-2014, 07:28 PM

Statement from Will Smith.

Statement from Will Smith on his release from the New Orleans Saints today:

"While it was always my dream to retire as a member of the New Orleans Saints, I recognize that the NFL remains a business first. I will always be grateful to Mr. Benson, Mr. Loomis, and Coach Payton for the opportunity they gave me to play the sport I love in front of football’s greatest fans, amongst some of my best friends. We accomplished great things during my time with the Saints, including winning the first Super Bowl in franchise history, and I am proud of my contributions during the decade I wore black and gold. My wife Racquel and I will continue our commitment to improving lives for New Orleans' youth no matter where my next stop in professional football takes me. I'm in good spirits, thankful and focused on training. My family and I welcome the next chapter in our NFL life. Who Dat!"

ScottF · 02-13-2014, 09:48 AM

Originally Posted by NonieT

Statement from Will Smith.

Statement from Will Smith on his release from the New Orleans Saints today:

"While it was always my dream to retire as a member of the New Orleans Saints, I recognize that the NFL remains a business first. I will always be grateful to Mr. Benson, Mr. Loomis, and Coach Payton for the opportunity they gave me to play the sport I love in front of football’s greatest fans, amongst some of my best friends. We accomplished great things during my time with the Saints, including winning the first Super Bowl in franchise history, and I am proud of my contributions during the decade I wore black and gold. My wife Racquel and I will continue our commitment to improving lives for New Orleans' youth no matter where my next stop in professional football takes me. I'm in good spirits, thankful and focused on training. My family and I welcome the next chapter in our NFL life. Who Dat!"

I am not sure Will Smith will have a next chapter.

02-14-2014, 09:49 AM	#1
Budsdrinker A Cajun Transforming TX Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: The Woodlands, Texas Posts: 2,787	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by TheOak Will Smith career has been a roller coaster, and I have to ask just how many defensive leaders have we had? Every time someone leaves or is in danger of leaving he is labeled a leader. Will Smith Johnathan Vilma Scott Fujita Curtis Lofton Scott Shanle .... .. .. They were all on the same team at the same time. We had a crap load of leadership for the worst defense in 2012. Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints. Crusader likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by Budsdrinker Nope, not true. Fujita was gone in 2010 and Vilma and Lofton didn't play much together because of Vilma's suspension and injuries. Lofton was Vilma's replacement. Will Smith was asked to do many things in his tenure, put on weight to be a run stuffer, drop weight to be a pass rusher and he did all of that. I think Smith had a nice career with the Saints. Correct, Lofton was the only oddball out. He was asked to do many things, and he did them. But not successfully. Will Smith spent the season on IR, never made a home game to support his team on the sidelines. I know because I have him on my Instagram and I can show you what he was doing on game days. That is no leader, nor is it a 10m a year player.

02-13-2014, 09:44 AM	#3
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by exile The Raiders. Oakland Raiders beat writer Vic Tafur said it is possible the team could show interest in veteran SS Roman Harper, who was released by the New Orleans Saints. However, he said he really could see the team showing an interest in DE Will Smith, also released by the Saints. Smith has a history with Raiders head coach Dennis Allen - See more at: Raiders \| Could show interest in Will Smith - NFL Hot off the Wire reunited with Young and Porter

02-12-2014, 06:33 PM	#5
saintsfan1976 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 11,020 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Jack, you're being hard on Smith. The guy was above average and healthy throughout his career. Charles Grant, however, was a waste of space. FinSaint likes this.

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Rell&Gold 1000 Posts + Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Washington, D.C Posts: 2,891	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by saintsfan1976 Jack, you're being hard on Smith. The guy was above average and healthy throughout his career. Charles Grant, however, was a waste of space. He was average at best only produced 2 double digit sack seasons better run stopper than pass rusher

02-12-2014, 06:37 PM	#7
TheEnigma 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 711	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Surprised we cut Greer. Now we really need a CB. Not surprised by the others though.
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) I think Vilma and Smith were overdue, I do thank them for the good years, they were solid. Harper, I like him and if he can get resigned to a lower pay I wouldn't mind resigning him but if he leaves who will we talk about as much on this board. Greer, I would like him back at a lower rate but alot depends on how he heals if no one is brought back thanks to them also.

02-12-2014, 07:28 PM	#9
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Statement from Will Smith. Statement from Will Smith on his release from the New Orleans Saints today: "While it was always my dream to retire as a member of the New Orleans Saints, I recognize that the NFL remains a business first. I will always be grateful to Mr. Benson, Mr. Loomis, and Coach Payton for the opportunity they gave me to play the sport I love in front of football’s greatest fans, amongst some of my best friends. We accomplished great things during my time with the Saints, including winning the first Super Bowl in franchise history, and I am proud of my contributions during the decade I wore black and gold. My wife Racquel and I will continue our commitment to improving lives for New Orleans' youth no matter where my next stop in professional football takes me. I'm in good spirits, thankful and focused on training. My family and I welcome the next chapter in our NFL life. Who Dat!" B_Dub_Saint and stickman like this.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: Saints begin cap cutting(Greer,Harper,Smith,Vilma) Originally Posted by NonieT Statement from Will Smith. Statement from Will Smith on his release from the New Orleans Saints today: "While it was always my dream to retire as a member of the New Orleans Saints, I recognize that the NFL remains a business first. I will always be grateful to Mr. Benson, Mr. Loomis, and Coach Payton for the opportunity they gave me to play the sport I love in front of football’s greatest fans, amongst some of my best friends. We accomplished great things during my time with the Saints, including winning the first Super Bowl in franchise history, and I am proud of my contributions during the decade I wore black and gold. My wife Racquel and I will continue our commitment to improving lives for New Orleans' youth no matter where my next stop in professional football takes me. I'm in good spirits, thankful and focused on training. My family and I welcome the next chapter in our NFL life. Who Dat!" I am not sure Will Smith will have a next chapter.

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