New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow

02-14-2014, 03:31 PM

He is a tight end that his coach lines up at multiple positions.

NOLA54 · 02-14-2014, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Brandon428

It's a shame how greedy NFL players are these days. I can appreciate someone wanting to get paid a fair amount,but the money some of these guys are getting could last me 20 life times!

BRAVO!

Danno · 02-14-2014, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by Brandon428

It's a shame how greedy NFL players are these days. I can appreciate someone wanting to get paid a fair amount,but the money some of these guys are getting could last me 20 life times!

Greedy for wanting to get paid what market value says you're worth?

I disagree. Its not greedy at all. Its the free market.

Halo · 02-14-2014, 06:12 PM

I'm willing to pay him top dollar as a tight end when he learns how to block somebody. Until then, he's a glorified receiver. Injury or not, he was shut down after the Patriots game and became a regular corp receiver.

I'm looking for tag status here. Not gonna be popular but Tom Brady and the Patriots made it to the AFC championship game with a group of no-name receivers all season long. If it doesn't work with Graham, there will be another. We're BIG TIME over salary cap and that has to come down somewhere.

Danno · 02-14-2014, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by Halo

I'm willing to pay him top dollar as a tight end when he learns how to block somebody. Until then, he's a glorified receiver. Injury or not, he was shut down after the Patriots game and became a regular corp receiver.

I'm looking for tag status here. Not gonna be popular but Tom Brady and the Patriots made it to the AFC championship game with a group of no-name receivers all season long. If it doesn't work with Graham, there will be another. We're BIG TIME over salary cap and that has to come down somewhere.

I hear over and over that Drew Brees makes his O-linemen and WR's look much better than they actually are.

No one really says that about Graham.

Just an observation.

exile · 02-14-2014, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I hear over and over that Drew Brees makes his O-linemen and WR's look much better than they actually are.

No one really says that about Graham.

Just an observation.

That's because they make each other look better.

Danno · 02-14-2014, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by exile

That's because they make each other look better.

So is Graham really the best TE in the NFL? Or is Brees responsible for making a top 10 TE look like the best?

Would Graham be considered the best TE in the NFL if he was on the Cleveland Browns?

halloween 65 · 02-15-2014, 06:49 AM

Wonder what his stats would look like then? Or the pounding that he would take, he would have to toughen up then? If he leaves he better hope he gets on a contending team, because he might not do so well if he don"t. A product of our system is what he is.

OldMaid · 02-15-2014, 10:19 AM

It takes some for both sides, Grahams' and Saints', to iron out all their wants and sticking points.
I can understand it being a slow process.

Graham is that good, young, and the Saints have invested time and money in developing him. He has invested time in this team and a team with many good players.
I trust Loomis and the Bensons, will work it out to keep him.
Why not try or want to after all the time in him. To get another guy and start all over, is a waste. A gamble. It always is.
For Graham to go to another team, one not so successful as these Saints, would not be good for him.

Utah_Saint · 02-15-2014, 01:26 PM

The stats show that Graham is clearly a top 10 receiver. If the Saints don't want to pay him as one, another team will.

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NOLA54 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,708 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow Originally Posted by Brandon428 It's a shame how greedy NFL players are these days. I can appreciate someone wanting to get paid a fair amount,but the money some of these guys are getting could last me 20 life times! BRAVO!

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow Originally Posted by Brandon428 It's a shame how greedy NFL players are these days. I can appreciate someone wanting to get paid a fair amount,but the money some of these guys are getting could last me 20 life times! Greedy for wanting to get paid what market value says you're worth? I disagree. Its not greedy at all. Its the free market.

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Halo Site Donor MONTHLY Join Date: May 2002 Location: New Orleans, LA Posts: 20,602 Blog Entries: 45	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow I'm willing to pay him top dollar as a tight end when he learns how to block somebody. Until then, he's a glorified receiver. Injury or not, he was shut down after the Patriots game and became a regular corp receiver. I'm looking for tag status here. Not gonna be popular but Tom Brady and the Patriots made it to the AFC championship game with a group of no-name receivers all season long. If it doesn't work with Graham, there will be another. We're BIG TIME over salary cap and that has to come down somewhere. halloween 65 likes this.
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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow Originally Posted by Halo I'm willing to pay him top dollar as a tight end when he learns how to block somebody. Until then, he's a glorified receiver. Injury or not, he was shut down after the Patriots game and became a regular corp receiver. I'm looking for tag status here. Not gonna be popular but Tom Brady and the Patriots made it to the AFC championship game with a group of no-name receivers all season long. If it doesn't work with Graham, there will be another. We're BIG TIME over salary cap and that has to come down somewhere. I hear over and over that Drew Brees makes his O-linemen and WR's look much better than they actually are. No one really says that about Graham. Just an observation.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow Originally Posted by exile That's because they make each other look better. So is Graham really the best TE in the NFL? Or is Brees responsible for making a top 10 TE look like the best? Would Graham be considered the best TE in the NFL if he was on the Cleveland Browns?

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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow Wonder what his stats would look like then? Or the pounding that he would take, he would have to toughen up then? If he leaves he better hope he gets on a contending team, because he might not do so well if he don"t. A product of our system is what he is.

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OldMaid Site Donor 2014 Join Date: Feb 2010 Posts: 2,910 Blog Entries: 3	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow It takes some for both sides, Grahams' and Saints', to iron out all their wants and sticking points. I can understand it being a slow process. Graham is that good, young, and the Saints have invested time and money in developing him. He has invested time in this team and a team with many good players. I trust Loomis and the Bensons, will work it out to keep him. Why not try or want to after all the time in him. To get another guy and start all over, is a waste. A gamble. It always is. For Graham to go to another team, one not so successful as these Saints, would not be good for him.

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Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham mum on tight end/wide receiver debate as contract talks remain slow The stats show that Graham is clearly a top 10 receiver. If the Saints don't want to pay him as one, another team will.

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