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Jack Vegas 02-26-2014 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 579523)
Meachem ran a 4.39 at the combine.

That was a loooong time ago. People talk about Colston like he's old and slowed down, but Meachem is only one year younger than Colston and has had just about the same number of surgeries.

Meachem's value is he knows the system well, has chemistry with Brees, is a good blocker and is great at tracking down deep passes. He's worth a lot more to us than he would be to most teams, but fortunately for us that also keeps his price down. I hope we keep him as long as it's a reasonable deal. Keep in mind he only caught 16 passes last year.

TheOak 02-26-2014 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 579633)
That was a loooong time ago. People talk about Colston like he's old and slowed down, but Meachem is only one year younger than Colston and has had just about the same number of surgeries.

Meachem's value is he knows the system well, has chemistry with Brees, is a good blocker and is great at tracking down deep passes. He's worth a lot more to us than he would be to most teams, but fortunately for us that also keeps his price down. I hope we keep him as long as it's a reasonable deal. Keep in mind he only caught 16 passes last year.

I agree on all of that. I have just reached a point where I would like a fresh face to speculate about. :)

Danno 02-26-2014 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579638)
I agree on all of that. I have just reached a point where I would like a fresh face to speculate about. :)

Nothing wrong with that, but I'd rather someone actually beat him out rather than just cutting him and hoping we can find someone better.

I think at 800K, its worth signing and bringing him into camp. I also hope that some young hot shot actually earns Meachem's roster spot.

Of course if that 800K means we can't sign a key free-agent, then I say "go long Robert, no longer, longer, longer, keep going..."

stickman 02-26-2014 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 579640)
...I'd rather someone actually beat him out rather than just cutting him and hoping we can find someone better.


Agreed. Newer isn't always better.

TheOak 02-26-2014 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 579640)
Nothing wrong with that, but I'd rather someone actually beat him out rather than just cutting him and hoping we can find someone better.

I think at 800K, its worth signing and bringing him into camp. I also hope that some young hot shot actually earns Meachem's roster spot.

Of course if that 800K means we can't sign a key free-agent, then I say "go long Robert, no longer, longer, longer, keep going..."

I am not disagreeing with you guys, I just have a little different take on handling it.

My thoughts:

1. He was available and no one picked him up but us last season. So I do not see anyone taking him, other than the Saints.

2. He is known, not going to see anything we do not already know from him in camp. Why waste the reps? Why risk the injury?

3. Let him float until we are done culling new talent, then pick him up to start the season if we haven't seen better in camp.

ScottF 02-26-2014 02:21 PM

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I am not sure what kind of 'negotiations' could be going on. He got a million last year while still cashing a Charger paycheck, and he isn't getting more than that.

He had some solid 40 catch seasons for us, and the fact is he didn't fit in at SD, for whatever reason. He can still fill the 4th or 5th role, and is certainly better than Toon or Tanner. 16 catches doesn't look like much, but as a 4th receiver on a team with Graham, Sproles, and PT, you aren't going to be targeted much.

We bring receivers along VERY slowly (Stills is the exception), so why not keep Meachem and let a rookie develop.

TheOak 02-26-2014 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 579664)
I am not sure what kind of 'negotiations' could be going on. He got a million last year while still cashing a Charger paycheck, and he isn't getting more than that.

He had some solid 40 catch seasons for us, and the fact is he didn't fit in at SD, for whatever reason. He can still fill the 4th or 5th role, and is certainly better than Toon or Tanner. 16 catches doesn't look like much, but you as a 4th receiver on a team with Graham, Sproles, and PT, you aren't going to be targeted much.

We bring receivers along VERY slowly (Stills is the exception), so why not keep Meachem and let a rookie develop.

Not sure how slow we bring WR along.

Colston started 12 games his rookie season.
I looked up most of the receivers I could think of that we had as rookies and near all of their 1st/2nd seasons look like their last two seasons.

ScottF 02-26-2014 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579670)
Not sure how slow we bring WR along.

Colston started 12 games his rookie season.
I looked up most of the receivers I could think of that we had as rookies and near all of their 1st/2nd seasons look like their last two seasons.

Henderson and Meachem come to mind.

TheOak 02-26-2014 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 579672)
Henderson and Meachem come to mind.


4 catch difference on Meachem between rookie and 2013. Sophomore year he was full go or as full go as Meachem ever was.
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...m?mobile=false

Henderson was just slow to come along period...
http://www.pro-football-reference.co...H/HendDe00.htm

But they were both niche receivers anyway.

Once Payton trusts the receiver, it's on.

Toon would have had more receptions if he could get out if his own way.

Moore just took a while to develop.

Morgan can't stay healthy.

ScottF 02-26-2014 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 579677)
4 catch difference on Meachem between rookie and 2013. Sophomore year he was full go or as full go as Meachem ever was.
Robert Meachem NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Henderson was just slow to come along period...
Devery Henderson NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

But they were both niche receivers anyway.

Once Payton trusts the receiver, it's on.

Toon would have had more receptions if he could get out if his own way.

Moore just took a while to develop.

Morgan can't stay healthy.

ah, but you skipped 2007 when Meachem didn't dress a single game


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