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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by papz I'm actually surprised we're bringing him in for a visit... pleasantly surprised. Not due the fact we could possibly sign him, but it says something about our ability to go sign free agents in general while ...

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Old 02-28-2014, 08:20 AM   #21
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I'm actually surprised we're bringing him in for a visit... pleasantly surprised. Not due the fact we could possibly sign him, but it says something about our ability to go sign free agents in general while still having Graham's contract looming over our heads.
Or.

Grahams contract is not over our heads and that decision has already been made, just can not do anything about it till the 11th.

I'm actually not sure it speaks to anything, there are a 1/2 dozen scenarios that could play out and we need to be prepared to option any one of them.
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Happy to kick the tires at least.
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
Or.

Grahams contract is not over our heads and that decision has already been made, just can not do anything about it till the 11th.

I'm actually not sure it speaks to anything, there are a 1/2 dozen scenarios that could play out and we need to be prepared to option any one of them.
I doubt a decision has been made... they're negotiating. All the posturing that's been going back and forth isn't our style and the unwarranted attention doesn't do anyone well. No one wants the negative attention especially with our recent history. Sure there's plenty of scenarios that could play out, but bringing in free agents does say something.

We're open for business.
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Don't kick too hard. Those knees may buckle.
That's wrong but...
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I doubt a decision has been made... they're negotiating. All the posturing that's been going back and forth isn't our style and the unwarranted attention doesn't do anyone well. No one wants the negative attention especially with our recent history. Sure there's plenty of scenarios that could play out, but bringing in free agents does say something.

We're open for business.
The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.
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Old 02-28-2014, 10:38 AM   #26
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I'm going to leave all that math to you Oak. I'm not even going to try to understand it and it's just numbers that's going to give me a headache. I'll leave that to Loomis and the rest of you number junkies.
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.
Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.
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Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.
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Originally Posted by TheOak View Post
The one biggest issue that hasn't been decided yet but should be today, that will steer the rest of the Saints decisions is the 2014 Salary Cap.

Negotiations are ongoing presently and the actual salary cap could be anywhere between 129-135m. I know the negotiation term is somewhat confusing as the Salary Cap number is believed to be based on revenue numbers but there is a little more to it than that.

Example: (as close as I can speculate)
There are actually TWO cap numbers. There is the Compensation Cap which is based on revenue, and there is the Salary Cap which is based off of negotiation.

E.g. The 2014 Compensation cap based off of revenue calculation may be $150M, but the NFLPA has to negotiate what percentage of that goes to Salary, and what percentage of that will go to Benefits (medical, retirement, etc...) So basically you start with $150m, determine 11% will go to Benefits and 89% will go to Salary eg 132m salary cap.
Over achieving Oak. Lol.
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Posts like that is why this is a thinking man's forum.
We don't have to think. We have members who do it for you.
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