New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd

Mr.Riaton · 03-12-2014, 05:39 AM

Byrd is Rob Ryan's bonus for yielding a 4th ranked D last season. Good job Rob....you earned it! Now we expect a #1 ranked D this year

B_Dub_Saint · 03-12-2014, 06:15 AM

Thank you so much 8lbs 6oz Baby Jesus!!!

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saintsfan1976 · 03-12-2014, 06:21 AM

Let's hope that plantar fasciitis on BOTH feet doesn't become an issue like last season.

dizzle88 · 03-12-2014, 06:36 AM

Best comment I've heard this morning

Is a Jarius Byrd in the hand worth two in the Rafael Bush! Lmao

lee909 · 03-12-2014, 08:10 AM

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lee909 · 03-12-2014, 08:31 AM

People see $56ml and decided it overpaid.

One of the first things I started to learn about by asking on here was the salary cap. Im surprised how many people growing up with a sport do not understand at least the basics of how it works.

The deal for Byrd could have been 5 years $45ml-8 years at $72ml if the gaureteed money is the same who cares. People see the first number and worry.Look at how Oak put thr contract, it fantastic and only has him needing to play 3-4 season snd make his gauretee and then its restructure/cut time.

TheOak · 03-12-2014, 08:44 AM

Ignore total contract $ focus only on guaranteed.

At the end of the day the deal will be evaluated on his success. If he balls out as a top safety it's a win, if he flops it's a loss even if it was a 5m contact.

Danno · 03-12-2014, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Ignore total contract $ focus only on guaranteed.

At the end of the day the deal will be evaluated on his success. If he balls out as a top safety it's a win, if he flops it's a loss even if it was a 5m contact.

A re-post...

54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed?

All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like...

Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million
Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million
Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million
Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million
Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million
Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million

Care to guess when we ask him to restructure?

I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5

TheOak · 03-12-2014, 11:16 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

A re-post...

54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed?

All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like...

Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million

Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million

Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million

Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million

Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million

Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million

Care to guess when we ask him to restructure?

I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5

Look at mine in the other thread, there is a difference between Signing Bonus and guaranteed.

Signing Bonus = Upfront and prorated for the cap.

Guaranteed = He will be paid that over the life of the contract at minimum. It is distributed any way Loomis sees fit and not prorated on a schedule.

Lower cap/year hit

TheOak · 03-12-2014, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

A re-post...

54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed?

All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like...

Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million
Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million
Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million
Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million
Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million
Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million

Care to guess when we ask him to restructure?

I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5

This is what I have

"I am going to make a SWAG attempt to look at what his contract will look like.

6 years - 54m / 11m signing bonus / 28m guaranteed
2014 1.83m SB / 3m - Cap Hit 4.83m
2015 1.83m SB / 4m - Cap Hit 5.83m
2016 1.83m SB / 4m - Cap Hit 5.83m
2017 1.83m SB / 6m - Cap Hit 7.83m
2018 1.83m SB / 12m - Cap Hit 13.83m
2019 1.83m SB / 14m - Cap Hit 15.83m

At the end of 2017 he has been paid all of his 28m Guaranteed
In 2018 he is cut and we will have a dead money of 3.66m

This is just a basic view and does not cover the bonuses for roster, work out etc..."
http://blackandgold.com/saints/64791...tml#post582432

03-12-2014, 06:21 AM	#3
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03-12-2014, 06:36 AM	#4
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03-12-2014, 08:10 AM	#5
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03-12-2014, 08:31 AM	#6
lee909 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Watford England Posts: 8,875 Blog Entries: 1	Re: New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd People see $56ml and decided it overpaid. One of the first things I started to learn about by asking on here was the salary cap. Im surprised how many people growing up with a sport do not understand at least the basics of how it works. The deal for Byrd could have been 5 years $45ml-8 years at $72ml if the gaureteed money is the same who cares. People see the first number and worry.Look at how Oak put thr contract, it fantastic and only has him needing to play 3-4 season snd make his gauretee and then its restructure/cut time. ChrisXVI likes this.
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03-12-2014, 08:44 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd Ignore total contract $ focus only on guaranteed. At the end of the day the deal will be evaluated on his success. If he balls out as a top safety it's a win, if he flops it's a loss even if it was a 5m contact. Danno likes this.

03-12-2014, 05:39 AM	#1
Mr.Riaton 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Broussard,La. Posts: 1,308	Re: New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd Byrd is Rob Ryan's bonus for yielding a 4th ranked D last season. Good job Rob....you earned it! Now we expect a #1 ranked D this year

03-12-2014, 09:25 AM	#8
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by TheOak Ignore total contract $ focus only on guaranteed. At the end of the day the deal will be evaluated on his success. If he balls out as a top safety it's a win, if he flops it's a loss even if it was a 5m contact. A re-post... 54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed? All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like... Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million Care to guess when we ask him to restructure? I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5 K Major likes this.

03-12-2014, 11:16 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by Danno A re-post... 54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed? All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like... Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million Care to guess when we ask him to restructure? I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5 Look at mine in the other thread, there is a difference between Signing Bonus and guaranteed. Signing Bonus = Upfront and prorated for the cap. Guaranteed = He will be paid that over the life of the contract at minimum. It is distributed any way Loomis sees fit and not prorated on a schedule. Lower cap/year hit

03-12-2014, 02:03 PM	#10
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,051	Re: New Orleans Saints agree to terms with safety Jairus Byrd Originally Posted by Danno A re-post... 54 million over 6 years, 28 million guaranteed? All may not be what it seems. It could be sturctured like... Year 1..salary 1 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 5.7 million Year 2..salary 2 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 6.7 million Year 3..salary 3 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 7.7 million Year 4..salary 4 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 8.7 million Year 5..salary 7 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 11.7 million Year 6..salary 10 million + guaranteed 4.7 = 14.7 million Care to guess when we ask him to restructure? I know its likely not structured in that way, but you get the picture. Its more likely a 4 year contract at about 6 to 7 million/year, then restructure or cut in year 5 This is what I have "I am going to make a SWAG attempt to look at what his contract will look like. 6 years - 54m / 11m signing bonus / 28m guaranteed 2014 1.83m SB / 3m - Cap Hit 4.83m 2015 1.83m SB / 4m - Cap Hit 5.83m 2016 1.83m SB / 4m - Cap Hit 5.83m 2017 1.83m SB / 6m - Cap Hit 7.83m 2018 1.83m SB / 12m - Cap Hit 13.83m 2019 1.83m SB / 14m - Cap Hit 15.83m At the end of 2017 he has been paid all of his 28m Guaranteed In 2018 he is cut and we will have a dead money of 3.66m This is just a basic view and does not cover the bonuses for roster, work out etc..." http://blackandgold.com/saints/64791...tml#post582432
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