Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints

Danno · 03-25-2014, 10:39 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right??
We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them.

It doesn't include players cut, only free agents that sign with another team.

WhoDat!656 · 03-25-2014, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by |Mitch|

Well it is based on how much you lose and pick up in free agency, value wise...

When have the Falcons ever been smart in the offseason?

When have the Falcons ever been smart in the regular season?

TheOak · 03-25-2014, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right??
We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them.

It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation.

If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go...

Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.

jeanpierre · 03-25-2014, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation.

If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go...

Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.

The value is also based on past honors...

For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would...

I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best...

TheOak · 03-25-2014, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by jeanpierre

The value is also based on past honors...

For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would...

I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best...

Not entirely true. While New England would get some value based on the formula, if Brady cant throw 30 yards and doesn't play much that will weigh negatively on the formula and knock it out of the top 32. Keep in mind it also based on contract value and if Brady cant throw 30 yards the LA Cosmonauts are not going to sign him to a big contract. I also doubt he passes a physical if he cant throw 30 yards.

What I do not think people realize is that no players that are cut or traded qualify. If has to be a player that went into free agency and was picked up by another team. They are also not considering that if say Jimmy Graham walked this season we would get nothing because the Byrd signing off-set that loss of value.

We are on the giving end of some Compensatory picks however, Lewis earned Pittsburgh one, Byrd will earn Buffalo one.

Crusader · 03-25-2014, 01:34 PM

It feels like this every year:

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amazin15 · 03-25-2014, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash.

In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.

I'm fine with no comp picks. I'd much prefer re-signing our key free agents and signing players who we know can contribute than sitting back in free agency to try and receive comp picks. The draft is a crap shoot and majority of those players aren't going to come right in and contribute like our free agent signings.

Papa Voodoo · 03-25-2014, 03:31 PM

So we'll get one for Sproles next year.

TheOak · 03-25-2014, 03:39 PM

Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo

So we'll get one for Sproles next year.

No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents.

SmashMouth · 03-25-2014, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents.

...errrrr, traded for a fifth rounder. Close enough.

03-25-2014, 10:39 AM	#21
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,723	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right?? We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them. It doesn't include players cut, only free agents that sign with another team.

03-25-2014, 10:41 AM	#22
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,062	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by \|Mitch\| Well it is based on how much you lose and pick up in free agency, value wise... When have the Falcons ever been smart in the offseason? When have the Falcons ever been smart in the regular season?

03-25-2014, 10:59 AM	#23
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Well since its all based on the previous year then next year we should get like 4 or 5 right?? We lost Smith, Vilma, Harper, Jenkins, & Moore just to name a few. We also did not receive anything from them. It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation. If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go... Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash. In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick.
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03-25-2014, 12:49 PM	#24
jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by TheOak It is based on a transfer of value. if we cut and they go home, no compensation. If they go to another team, sign for 60m, play 16 games and are, pro-bowl, all pro.... We get comp... But then you have to ask why in the heck we let that player go... Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash. In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick. The value is also based on past honors... For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would... I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best...
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03-25-2014, 01:03 PM	#25
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by jeanpierre The value is also based on past honors... For instance, say New England elects not to resign Tom Brady when he turns 43 and his contract expires; Brady then decides, I'm gonna play for one season in Los Angeles even though he can't throw the ball thirty yards; should New England get a third round pick, because under the current formula, they most likely would... I'm not upset the Saints didn't get anything; but I see other teams lose players that clearly have more value the next season than what Baltimore or New York lost; or they're getting picks ahead of our own for minimal losses at best... Not entirely true. While New England would get some value based on the formula, if Brady cant throw 30 yards and doesn't play much that will weigh negatively on the formula and knock it out of the top 32. Keep in mind it also based on contract value and if Brady cant throw 30 yards the LA Cosmonauts are not going to sign him to a big contract. I also doubt he passes a physical if he cant throw 30 yards. What I do not think people realize is that no players that are cut or traded qualify. If has to be a player that went into free agency and was picked up by another team. They are also not considering that if say Jimmy Graham walked this season we would get nothing because the Byrd signing off-set that loss of value. We are on the giving end of some Compensatory picks however, Lewis earned Pittsburgh one, Byrd will earn Buffalo one.
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amazin15 Registered Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Monroe, LA Posts: 98	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by TheOak Not getting comp picks just tells me we cut fat, not players that go somewhere else and play better. When the happens Loomis brings in A FA signing that accounts for the talent/value loss and it is a wash. In other words, we do not shoot our selves in the foot to get a 4th round comp pick. I'm fine with no comp picks. I'd much prefer re-signing our key free agents and signing players who we know can contribute than sitting back in free agency to try and receive comp picks. The draft is a crap shoot and majority of those players aren't going to come right in and contribute like our free agent signings. Rugby Saint II and TheOak like this.

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Papa Voodoo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 1,634	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints So we'll get one for Sproles next year.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,027	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by Papa Voodoo So we'll get one for Sproles next year. No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,201 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Compensatory picks awarded - None for Saints Originally Posted by TheOak No sir. Sproles was cut, its only for free agents. ...errrrr, traded for a fifth rounder. Close enough. Rugby Saint II likes this.

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