Aaaaggghhh!

burningmetal · 03-31-2014, 09:38 PM

[quote=Danno;586239]

Originally Posted by burningmetal

Well I side with his coaches, so I'm feeling pretty good about my view of him.

Most fans don't know the difference between a Strong Safety and a Free Safety.

I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time.

What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him?

They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had.

But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it.

|Mitch| · 03-31-2014, 09:47 PM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time.

What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him?

They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had.

But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it.

Why are you two still bickering like two old women about players not on the team anymore?

Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one... You're just wasting your time arguing with Danno when Harper isn't even on the team anymore...

Danno · 03-31-2014, 09:53 PM

[quote=burningmetal;586240]

Originally Posted by Danno

I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time.

What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him?

They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had.

But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it.

I disagree that he stunk at it the majority of the time. He started for 4 different coordinators, made two pro-bowls, earned more game balls than anyone else on our defense under Gregg Williams. He was a classic SS that was too often a scapegoat for every problem this defense had.

When used as a strong safety, he played well. He was nowhere near as bad as many made him out to be. He's obviously not as good now as he used to be and his salary exceeded his contributions. Lance Moore was also released, did he suck? Jed Collins was released, did he suck? Scott Fujita was let go, did he suck? Jonathan Vilma wasn't resigned, at one time he was one of the best MLB's in the league, I guess he sucked too? We let Chris Ivory walk, did he suck? Joique Bell? Did he suck? Reggie Bush?

CheramieIII · 03-31-2014, 05:45 PM

I was thinking the same thing but I didn't want to start a thread for my boredom

NonieT · 03-31-2014, 05:50 PM

I'll take this over what we had to seasons ago, any day of the week. I'd rather be bored. I appreciate being bored so much more.

B_Dub_Saint · 03-31-2014, 05:48 PM

Sometimes no news is good news. How bout Ray Rice beating up his girlfriend, then marrying her this weekend. Weird?

saintfan · 03-31-2014, 08:59 PM

Well HERE!!!!

Is a nice slow motion extra point to help pass the time:

Saints extra point - YouTube

burningmetal · 03-31-2014, 10:12 PM

Right mitch, polamalo spends all his time in the box and NEVER drops back and gets all the interceptions he's had in his career. That's a great example.

FinSaint · 03-31-2014, 10:56 PM

If ever there was an aptly titled thread...

TheOak · 04-01-2014, 05:47 AM

"Boot to the head"

03-31-2014, 09:38 PM	#1
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Aaaaggghhh! [quote=Danno;586239] Originally Posted by burningmetal Well I side with his coaches, so I'm feeling pretty good about my view of him. Most fans don't know the difference between a Strong Safety and a Free Safety. I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time. What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him? They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had. But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

03-31-2014, 09:47 PM	#2
\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Aaaaggghhh! Originally Posted by burningmetal I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time. What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him? They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had. But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it. Why are you two still bickering like two old women about players not on the team anymore? Opinions are like *******s, everyone has one... You're just wasting your time arguing with Danno when Harper isn't even on the team anymore...

03-31-2014, 09:53 PM	#3
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: Aaaaggghhh! [quote=burningmetal;586240] Originally Posted by Danno I know the difference quite well. Roman Harper was not asked to cover Calvin Johnson. He was asked to perform exactly the kind of coverage duties that all strong safeties have to do. And he stunk at it the majority of the time. What makes you believe the Saints agree with you? Did they ever say he was great in coverage? Did they not just release him? They kept him around this long because for years they invested nothing into the defense and didn't view his position as a priority. He was used as an extra linebacker for all intents and purposes, and everyone knows that. If he were "great" in coverage 90% of the time, they would not have drafted a safety in the first round last year, and spent 58 million or whatever it was on a another this year. They could have just kept the crap they already had. But evidently, the Saints identified a problem and have finally decided to do something about it. I disagree that he stunk at it the majority of the time. He started for 4 different coordinators, made two pro-bowls, earned more game balls than anyone else on our defense under Gregg Williams. He was a classic SS that was too often a scapegoat for every problem this defense had. When used as a strong safety, he played well. He was nowhere near as bad as many made him out to be. He's obviously not as good now as he used to be and his salary exceeded his contributions. Lance Moore was also released, did he suck? Jed Collins was released, did he suck? Scott Fujita was let go, did he suck? Jonathan Vilma wasn't resigned, at one time he was one of the best MLB's in the league, I guess he sucked too? We let Chris Ivory walk, did he suck? Joique Bell? Did he suck? Reggie Bush?

03-31-2014, 05:45 PM	#4
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03-31-2014, 05:48 PM	#6
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03-31-2014, 10:12 PM	#8
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