Johnny Football vs Drew Brees
 

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Agree....totally.

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I agree with the throwing angle but Johnny Football will ignite a team. It might take him a while to adapt to the pro's and he will need to be coached up, but his leadership cannot be taught.

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Johnny Manziel has exhibited zero maturity or leadership yet. He is also the polar opposite of an NFL QB so far through college.

Not saying he can't be "fixed.....
Just saying there is a lot of work to do.

1. He is not a pocket passer and he very strongly favors rolling right. Drew Brees - Pocket passer.

2. He is a play maker but also an ad-lib QB, good luck game planing around that. Drew is a system QB and is easy to game plan around.

He will have a few good games at first, as soon as opposing DCs have enough tape to game plan for him, he's done.

If it maters I rarely watch college Football, I made sure if A&M was on this past season I was watching him. He is dynamic and electrifying but that isn't going to be an easy transition to the NFL at all.


On the comparison in the video, it's rather terrible. Drew is releasing with a 6'7" line in front of him, Manziel is on the rear of his motion with out a line in his face.

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/04/01/7y5ysevu.jpg

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Manzeil reminds me so much of QB's like, Ryan Leaf, Jamarcus Russell, Andre Ware etc

He is nothing like Brees.

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I rarely ever agree with Babe Laufenberg (bearded guy in the video) of Dallas news but in this instance I think he is absolutely correct.
Johnny was an exciting college QB but running around like a keystone cop will not work at the NFL level. Coaching, film study, better pocket presence & awareness is something Johnny will have to work on to be an average Pro QB in my opinion.

The only thing remotely similar in Brees and Manziel is that they both were born in Texas.

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HUGE step from where he was to where he's headed. I'm not saying the kid can't do it. What do I know? If he's successful, I agree with others here who think it will take a while. This kid is no Dan Marino, and he's certainly no Drew Brees.

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Question is.... WWZS? What Would Zoey Say? :D

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I think at times he showed leadership qualities...in some of those game when they were getting their arses handed to them he rallied the offensive troops to get their heads back in the game. Now with that being said he does have a lot to learn and adjust to but I would take him over any of the QBs that are projected in the first round. I don't believe that any of them will be ready to play this year and in most drafts they are not 1st round QBs. I'm hoping that they have a run on QBs in the first round...better for us!!! :D

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The same was said about Tebow.

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Until he plays in the NFL I cannot say he will be bad or he will be good. He will have to go into the right system.

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Why is a boy who has yet to be drafted getting compared to a first ballot HOF star.

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If you follow the chain of all the stories I'll bet the first link has a swoosh on it.

Nike signed a QB to a huge endorsement deal before his pro day or he was ever drafted. They need to start recovering that revenue some how.

I hope he wins the lottery and never makes it into the NFL. It's not the players or owners that corrupt the league.

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media darling. he is getting so pumped up by the media it is to the point i can not even stand to see or hear of him. when i do i change the channel

it is a so so year for top tier QB in the draft and they refuse to admit it. glamor positions gesshhhh

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The teams in need of a QB should draft Manziel. He is the real deal. He is a difference maker. He will make plays on the field and he will put fans in the stadium. If Houston, Cleveland and Jacksonville pass on him, they will regret it. After an offseason of acting like a a privileged brat, he did everything right at A&M during the season. He has grown and matured. Is he completely ready for the NFL? No. Few rarely are and even for those it can be a bumpy first year. For anyone who thinks he compares to guys like Leaf, you don't know football.

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Just like Tebow, I really hope he fails and gets the coach that drafts him fired. Only thing Manizel has in common with Brees is height

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Damn RC83, I think you forgot to make sure he gets kicked in the balls and then curb stomped.

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Vince Young vs. Joe Montana

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I thought Jamarcus Russell was going to be a star. Work ethic was his problem.

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and Cheetos, lots and lots of Cheetos


oh and purple drank

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Bruh, I remember when he first was drafted. I went to this club down here in Mississippi in a city called Moss Point, which is pretty much the worse, most dangerous city in the state. The club had just opened back up because it was always getting shot up. And who do I see in there that night with his Raiders jacket on? Jamarcus Russell. I knew then it was over.

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Its funny that Merrill Hoge took a beating for proclaiming he didn't think any of those QB's (Russell, Quinn) were 1st round worthy and wouldn't touch any of them until the 2nd round.

Looks like 2nd round was a reach too.

He also says Manzeil will be a bust.

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What is Gil Brandts take on Manziel? He is probably the guy I'd listen the most to.

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Gil Brandt on Manziel. A few league people raised their eyebrows when the godfather of the draft, Gil Brandt, put 6-0 Texas A&M quarterback Johnny Manziel No. 1 on his first draft board. I asked Brandt why he did it. “I do have a tremendous belief in him,” Brandt said. “You are going to get 110% out of this guy every day of his life, every play of his life. If you don’t have a quarterback, and you want one, I believe this guy has a great chance to be good for a long time. This guy had an inferior team. And he beat Alabama, he beat Oklahoma. He’s down 29 to Duke in the last game of his college career, and he’s on the sidelines saying, ‘There is no way we are going to lose.’ This guy’s a better version of Fran Tarkenton.” About Manziel’s love of the parties, Brandt said, “He’s had a chance to do some things, at age 18, 19, 20 and 21, because of the financial backing of his grandfather, but the more I’ve looked into him, I just don’t believe it’s going to hold him back from being really good. The one thing coach [Tom] Landry told me a long time ago is you look for the good, not for the bad.”

I will temper that... Gil Brandt also high on Tim Tebow and said he was the top of his draft class at #1...

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Its going to be fascinating watching Johnny. He really could go either way. Im unsure what to think of him and will ne watvhing his preseason games carefully

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He is a human highlight reel. Have you ever seen the movie Johnny B. Good with Anthony Micheal Hall? Pretty much the same... Youtube has a crap load of film on him... He does favor the right half of the field a lot though...

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Come on brother.. Its one thing to prognosticate, but why would you hope that?

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He may have the talent but I don't know if he has the work ethic required to be really good like Drew.

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Unlike Tebow, he has the mechanics when he focuses and isn't trying to hurry. At times he has balance issues due to throwing off his back foot.

Then comes the big question like most players with god given ability. Can he work to take it to the next level.

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if he works out it will be a huge payday for the team that drafts him and the NFL.

if not so what as long as he is not in the black and gold.

i do not see any of the QB's in the RG3 or Luck skills set so i am stumped on the hype they are getting. but thats just me

please do not pick him is all i can say if he falls

plus the kid has not even stepped into an nfl locker room much less put on an nfl jock strap so why compare him to anyone in the NFL?

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Draft candidates play styles are compared to NFL players every day... Even here in B&G

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My comment might of been a little extreme but for the last 2 years Manziel has been shoved down my throat because of where I live. I just don't see him making these "magic trick" plays in the NFL where he is no longer the best player on the field

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I live in Houston as well, there are 234 other channels.

No need to go wishing a coach gets fired lol.

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There might be 234 other channels but half have infomercials and the other half barely hold my attention

Wish NFLN would expand their programming during the offseason

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Manziel has a lot of Brett Favre's recklessness to his game. But without the elite elite arm strength that Brett had, Manziel won't be able to get away with a lot of the throws he did in college. If he doesn't refine his game, he's going to be a turnover machine at quarterback in the NFL.

If I had to compare him to anyone right now it would probably be Jake Locker.

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Just in time for you to see him there also? LOL!:saintsfan:

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If I'm Johnny Football, I hope to slide down the draft board and hope an average to good team picks him where he can learn and observe the game from the sideline for a year.

On the other hand if he goes to Cleveland/Jacksonville/Tennessee & thrown to the wolves from Day 1, the kid could be in big trouble.

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He is nothing like Brees. At all.

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Agreed.... When he gets an opportunity to start, his first season at least will be a Kapernick sort of first season, lots of legs and conservative on the throws until his decisions can be trusted. That is going to test his maturity. Can he make a whole season throttled back with out breaking rank or voicing his opinion if unfavorable.

Not easy going from Johnny Football to game manager...

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Jeff George is who this guy reminds me of. He and Drew are "short" but that's it.