Brooks

JOESAM2002 · 12-11-2004, 11:21 PM

AMEN!!!!! :smile_argue:

UK_WhoDat · 12-12-2004, 02:11 PM

Amen............. and

May the Lord bless you
With blessings that never end.

(if you are that way inclined... If not, chill)

BrooksMustGo · 12-13-2004, 10:02 PM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rt2/index.html

I think I have to hand it to Aaron Brooks for coming back so doggedly in the 27-13 win over the Cowboys, but it\'s quasi-maddening to watch the man play. I\'ve seen some dumb intentional-grounding penalties in my days, but the one Brooks took in the second quarter against Dallas takes the cake. New Orleans made the Cowboys punt from their one and took over at the Dallas 46. On second-and-10, Brooks dropped back against a heavy rush. He pirouetted backward, then -- though he had the chance to run outside the tackle box, throw the ball away and avoid intentional grounding -- he threw the ball away still within the tackles. Just a moronic play. A 24-yard intentional grounding penalty ensued. If this were a first-year starter, I\'d understand the dumbness of this. But Brooks is 28. He\'s been in the league six years.

Nice to see that Peter King can sum up Brooks so handily. He can be ok, and then do the most jaw droppingly dumb things. One of the most dismal defenses in NFL history won yesterday\'s game. Our statistically amazing QB didn\'t seem to have much to do with the win.

Go figure.

mutineer10 · 12-14-2004, 07:56 AM

I dabbled with this on another post, but it fits in greater depth here. If we choose to save a little money by not franchising Darren Howard, there are a few neglected - but talented - guys out there who we might be able to pick up on the cheap, assuming we deal Aaron Brooks. Some have been mentioned before, but not really discussed at any length, so here goes:

Jon Kitna - Lost his job to blue-chipper Carson Palmer after posting the best season of his career. He\'s still relatively young, has a great arm, and seems to have finally matured. Now wasting away on the Bengals bench. A change of scenery and a chance to prove himself might pay off big for some lucky team who takes a chance on him.

Trent Dilfer - a Super Bowl winner who is the very definition of a \"game manager.\" He\'s never posted big stats, nor does his arm strength strike fear in the hearts of NFL defenses, but the guy is a steady veteran who finds a way to win games. He could provide the leadership our offense needs.

Kurt Warner - Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Injuries, and a botched comeback attempt behind the NFL\'s worst O-line (NYG), have made a mockery of Warner\'s past success. Still, with ample talent surrounding him and a decent O-line in front of him, there may be untapped potential left in this guy. I think he\'s still got a few years left, and he\'ll probably be unemployed again after this season (NYG only gave him a 1-year deal). Warner wants to prove he can still shine, and if he can he\'d be a steal.

Mike McMahon - I\'m not as sold on this guy as some folks are. I don\'t like Joey Harrington either, and a guy who can\'t take Harrington\'s job hardly seems like an upgrade. Still, others seem to think this guy has a lot of potential, so maybe there\'s something I don\'t see. Either way, we could probably get a good price for him.

David Garrard - Another guy I\'m not really sold on. Has a nice arm, but seems to have \"happy feet\" as well. A little young and raw for my taste, but could have future potential with the right coaching and development. He filled in pretty well when Leftwich went out a few weeks ago.

Jay Fiedler - My resident \"dark horse\" QB candidate, Fiedler has taken alot of undue blame starting for a horrible offense in Miami. He lost his job this year when some idiot in the Dolphins front office got a crush on A.J. Feeley, a guy I wouldn\'t want just by his name. Fiedler has never had much talent to work with, has played behind a perpetually awful O-line, and still (with an ample running game) won 10 games in Miami last season. He\'s another experienced guy with something to prove, and might surprise if given the chance.

These are just some possibilities I was kicking around in my head. Feel free to debate or add as you like...

WhoDat · 12-14-2004, 09:49 AM

After watching Volek in relief of McNair the last few weeks I\'m wondering if the Titans will give us Fisher and Volek for Haslett and Brooks straight up! LOL

RDOX · 12-14-2004, 06:20 PM

After watching Volek in relief of McNair the last few weeks I\'m wondering if the Titans will give us Fisher and Volek for Haslett and Brooks straight up! LOL

WE COULD ONLY HOPE!!!!!!!

:exclam:

saintsfan1313 · 12-15-2004, 12:19 AM

Im sorry, but did he say Jay Fieldler. I agree with some of these to an extent. Kitna, yes, good guy who has had a crappy team with no help. But the guy I am stoked about, is David Garrard. The guy is a gamer. I see him as a Steve Mcnair type player. Seems very \"sturdy\". We need to make a pass at him this offseason. Drop Bouman, and let Brooks and Garrard battle it out this offseason. That should make all the pro-Brooks and Brooks-haters happy. But, by all means, we all know Brooks is not the reason for the Saints problems. That should start something.............

mutineer10 · 12-15-2004, 09:21 PM

Yup, he said Jay Fiedler...

As for Volek, I\'m starting to believe the Ttians will actually keep the guy and even start him if McNair retires. Don\'t forget, Volek\'s contract expired last season, and he turned down more money to stay with the Titans. For better or worse, he may be rewarded with a starting job next season...

That being said, I don\'t like him. Focuses on one WR, doesn\'t check off, makes some questionable throws. It\'s a testament to how good Drew Bennett really is that he caught so many of those ducks Volek tossed in his vicinity on Monday night...

BrooksMustGo · 12-18-2004, 03:06 PM

Kitna is an interesting candidate. If the money was right I\'d be ok with him. However, we really have to do something with the offensive line first and foremost.

spkb25 · 12-18-2004, 03:19 PM

mutineer as far as fieldler i just dont see him as much more then a back up. at the same time i liked him when he was with philly before they cuit him. but bro talking about feeley he really isnt worth much which makes me wonder how much of it is a system. because feely looked great for philly the year mcnabb got hurt. if it is a system then that would mean we dont have the coaching or the players. because philly either has better players or better coaching or both then we do.

12-11-2004, 11:21 PM	#221
JOESAM2002 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: CRYSTAL BEACH TEXAS Posts: 4,100	Brooks AMEN!!!!! :smile_argue:

12-12-2004, 02:11 PM	#222
UK_WhoDat 1000 Posts + Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Wherever I lay my hat Posts: 3,985	Brooks Amen............. and May the Lord bless you With blessings that never end. (if you are that way inclined... If not, chill)

12-13-2004, 10:02 PM	#223
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Brooks http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...rt2/index.html I think I have to hand it to Aaron Brooks for coming back so doggedly in the 27-13 win over the Cowboys, but it\'s quasi-maddening to watch the man play. I\'ve seen some dumb intentional-grounding penalties in my days, but the one Brooks took in the second quarter against Dallas takes the cake. New Orleans made the Cowboys punt from their one and took over at the Dallas 46. On second-and-10, Brooks dropped back against a heavy rush. He pirouetted backward, then -- though he had the chance to run outside the tackle box, throw the ball away and avoid intentional grounding -- he threw the ball away still within the tackles. Just a moronic play. A 24-yard intentional grounding penalty ensued. If this were a first-year starter, I\'d understand the dumbness of this. But Brooks is 28. He\'s been in the league six years. Nice to see that Peter King can sum up Brooks so handily. He can be ok, and then do the most jaw droppingly dumb things. One of the most dismal defenses in NFL history won yesterday\'s game. Our statistically amazing QB didn\'t seem to have much to do with the win. Go figure.

12-14-2004, 07:56 AM	#224
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Brooks I dabbled with this on another post, but it fits in greater depth here. If we choose to save a little money by not franchising Darren Howard, there are a few neglected - but talented - guys out there who we might be able to pick up on the cheap, assuming we deal Aaron Brooks. Some have been mentioned before, but not really discussed at any length, so here goes: Jon Kitna - Lost his job to blue-chipper Carson Palmer after posting the best season of his career. He\'s still relatively young, has a great arm, and seems to have finally matured. Now wasting away on the Bengals bench. A change of scenery and a chance to prove himself might pay off big for some lucky team who takes a chance on him. Trent Dilfer - a Super Bowl winner who is the very definition of a \"game manager.\" He\'s never posted big stats, nor does his arm strength strike fear in the hearts of NFL defenses, but the guy is a steady veteran who finds a way to win games. He could provide the leadership our offense needs. Kurt Warner - Oh, how the mighty have fallen. Injuries, and a botched comeback attempt behind the NFL\'s worst O-line (NYG), have made a mockery of Warner\'s past success. Still, with ample talent surrounding him and a decent O-line in front of him, there may be untapped potential left in this guy. I think he\'s still got a few years left, and he\'ll probably be unemployed again after this season (NYG only gave him a 1-year deal). Warner wants to prove he can still shine, and if he can he\'d be a steal. Mike McMahon - I\'m not as sold on this guy as some folks are. I don\'t like Joey Harrington either, and a guy who can\'t take Harrington\'s job hardly seems like an upgrade. Still, others seem to think this guy has a lot of potential, so maybe there\'s something I don\'t see. Either way, we could probably get a good price for him. David Garrard - Another guy I\'m not really sold on. Has a nice arm, but seems to have \"happy feet\" as well. A little young and raw for my taste, but could have future potential with the right coaching and development. He filled in pretty well when Leftwich went out a few weeks ago. Jay Fiedler - My resident \"dark horse\" QB candidate, Fiedler has taken alot of undue blame starting for a horrible offense in Miami. He lost his job this year when some idiot in the Dolphins front office got a crush on A.J. Feeley, a guy I wouldn\'t want just by his name. Fiedler has never had much talent to work with, has played behind a perpetually awful O-line, and still (with an ample running game) won 10 games in Miami last season. He\'s another experienced guy with something to prove, and might surprise if given the chance. These are just some possibilities I was kicking around in my head. Feel free to debate or add as you like...

12-14-2004, 09:49 AM	#225
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12-14-2004, 06:20 PM	#226
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12-15-2004, 12:19 AM	#227
saintsfan1313 El Mero Mero Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Kingsville, Tx Posts: 669	Brooks Im sorry, but did he say Jay Fieldler. I agree with some of these to an extent. Kitna, yes, good guy who has had a crappy team with no help. But the guy I am stoked about, is David Garrard. The guy is a gamer. I see him as a Steve Mcnair type player. Seems very \"sturdy\". We need to make a pass at him this offseason. Drop Bouman, and let Brooks and Garrard battle it out this offseason. That should make all the pro-Brooks and Brooks-haters happy. But, by all means, we all know Brooks is not the reason for the Saints problems. That should start something.............
	is this all really happening????

12-15-2004, 09:21 PM	#228
mutineer10 Site Donor Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Baton Rouge, LA Posts: 1,739	Brooks Yup, he said Jay Fiedler... As for Volek, I\'m starting to believe the Ttians will actually keep the guy and even start him if McNair retires. Don\'t forget, Volek\'s contract expired last season, and he turned down more money to stay with the Titans. For better or worse, he may be rewarded with a starting job next season... That being said, I don\'t like him. Focuses on one WR, doesn\'t check off, makes some questionable throws. It\'s a testament to how good Drew Bennett really is that he caught so many of those ducks Volek tossed in his vicinity on Monday night...

12-18-2004, 03:06 PM	#229
BrooksMustGo 1000 Posts + Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,762	Brooks Kitna is an interesting candidate. If the money was right I\'d be ok with him. However, we really have to do something with the offensive line first and foremost.

12-18-2004, 03:19 PM	#230
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,101	Brooks mutineer as far as fieldler i just dont see him as much more then a back up. at the same time i liked him when he was with philly before they cuit him. but bro talking about feeley he really isnt worth much which makes me wonder how much of it is a system. because feely looked great for philly the year mcnabb got hurt. if it is a system then that would mean we dont have the coaching or the players. because philly either has better players or better coaching or both then we do.