Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option

NonieT · 04-25-2014, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Yes its a money issue. 5 million is probably too much for a RB in this offense regardless.

In any offense it's too much money.

Danno · 04-25-2014, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

... Look at Ivory who was an UDFA who consistently out ran Ingram, look at Khiry Robinson who has consistently out run Ingram,Look at PT who has consistently out run Ingram and even look at Cadet. These backs have all run behind the same O-Line, and Ingram has consistently come up short, no pun intended, lol. Mark has no one to blame but himself for his short comings, again no pun intended, lol, but it's time for us to move on. No matter how much any of us wants Ingram to "Break Out", odds are, it's just not gonna happen.

Nonsense, again.

Utah_Saint · 04-25-2014, 01:04 PM

He came on at the end of the season, he played very well and I hope he continues to play at that level, but he doesn't deserve a big contract based on the last 4 or 5 games of a 3 year span.

hagan714 · 04-25-2014, 03:06 PM

he should be worried. so far he has not earned the money he has gotten or showed any value for the picks used to draft him. talent is there for sure. injury bug and probably the offense he is trapped in contribute greatly to his drop in worth to this team.

he has to prove he fits in or the saints need to cash in their chips and get whatever they can for him. Or let him walk as a FA.

so far he is just a mistake. saints and ingram are not a match made in heaven so far.

Seer1 · 04-25-2014, 04:16 PM

So if we don't pick it up, can we still resign him at a lower salary?

Danno · 04-25-2014, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

So if we don't pick it up, can we still resign him at a lower salary?

Yes, which is why its not a big deal.

The only risk is he may decide to test the waters, which doesn't really hurt us considering how we use RB's.

ChrisXVI · 04-25-2014, 04:30 PM

There's really no question... Let him go after this season. With our penchant for undrafted RB's there's no reason to pay him millions to keep him around. He's not gonna light it up this season... Even Bill Parcells has been telling Payton that Khiry Robinson is the truth and that will probably be the direction Payton wants to go in.

hagan714 · 04-25-2014, 04:30 PM

why resign him if after this year he just does not work in our system? as to date i see no reason to resign him at all

Danno · 04-25-2014, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by hagan714

why resign him if after this year he just does not work in our system? as to date i see no reason to resign him at all

Well obviously 2014 will likely decide if thats true or not.

burningmetal · 04-25-2014, 06:46 PM

Options are one of the most over-rated things in sports. Both the player and the team always have the option to stay together or part ways. It's just a technicality, and everyone knows it. There's the issue of not wanting some players to hit the market, but then again when it comes to agreeing to exercise a player option there has to be an agreement on terms of extension. Which isn't that different from dealing with the player as a free agent.

If he proves himself this year, they'll try to re-sign him. If he asks for too much then he'll walk. If he stinks it up, he'll be gone regardless. Why should we exercise any option until we know what he does with a little bit more of an expanded role?

Slow news cycle.

04-25-2014, 11:54 AM	#11
NonieT 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 921	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option Originally Posted by Danno Yes its a money issue. 5 million is probably too much for a RB in this offense regardless. In any offense it's too much money.
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04-25-2014, 01:01 PM	#12
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option Originally Posted by Marlboro Man ... Look at Ivory who was an UDFA who consistently out ran Ingram, look at Khiry Robinson who has consistently out run Ingram,Look at PT who has consistently out run Ingram and even look at Cadet. These backs have all run behind the same O-Line, and Ingram has consistently come up short, no pun intended, lol. Mark has no one to blame but himself for his short comings, again no pun intended, lol, but it's time for us to move on. No matter how much any of us wants Ingram to "Break Out", odds are, it's just not gonna happen. Nonsense, again.

04-25-2014, 01:04 PM	#13
Utah_Saint Site Donor 2019 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Salt Lake City, Utah Posts: 3,521	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option He came on at the end of the season, he played very well and I hope he continues to play at that level, but he doesn't deserve a big contract based on the last 4 or 5 games of a 3 year span. MarchingOn likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option he should be worried. so far he has not earned the money he has gotten or showed any value for the picks used to draft him. talent is there for sure. injury bug and probably the offense he is trapped in contribute greatly to his drop in worth to this team. he has to prove he fits in or the saints need to cash in their chips and get whatever they can for him. Or let him walk as a FA. so far he is just a mistake. saints and ingram are not a match made in heaven so far.
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04-25-2014, 04:22 PM	#16
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option Originally Posted by Seer1 So if we don't pick it up, can we still resign him at a lower salary? Yes, which is why its not a big deal. The only risk is he may decide to test the waters, which doesn't really hurt us considering how we use RB's. TheOak and K Major like this.

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ChrisXVI 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 11,482	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option There's really no question... Let him go after this season. With our penchant for undrafted RB's there's no reason to pay him millions to keep him around. He's not gonna light it up this season... Even Bill Parcells has been telling Payton that Khiry Robinson is the truth and that will probably be the direction Payton wants to go in.

04-25-2014, 04:50 PM	#19
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option Originally Posted by hagan714 why resign him if after this year he just does not work in our system? as to date i see no reason to resign him at all Well obviously 2014 will likely decide if thats true or not.

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burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option Options are one of the most over-rated things in sports. Both the player and the team always have the option to stay together or part ways. It's just a technicality, and everyone knows it. There's the issue of not wanting some players to hit the market, but then again when it comes to agreeing to exercise a player option there has to be an agreement on terms of extension. Which isn't that different from dealing with the player as a free agent. If he proves himself this year, they'll try to re-sign him. If he asks for too much then he'll walk. If he stinks it up, he'll be gone regardless. Why should we exercise any option until we know what he does with a little bit more of an expanded role? Slow news cycle. Danno likes this.
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