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WhoDat!656 04-24-2014 11:20 PM

Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
The New Orleans Saints' 2011 first round draft pick, running back Mark Ingram is about to wrap up his fourth year in the league in 2014. Where he'll be in 2015 is currently up in the year as the team has until May 3rd to exercise their option for a fifth year.

The team already exercised defensive end Cam Jordan’s option, and Ingram isn't feeling too confident the Saints will do the same for him. Time is running it out.

“I’m not sure if they will pick up the fifth-year option,” Ingram said, via the New Orleans Times-Picayune.

“I’m just working one day at a time and I’m just glad I’m on a team that’s a championship contender.”

Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option

TheOak 04-25-2014 07:53 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Smart guy, the option will not be picked up and it has nothing to do with Ingram.

ScottF 04-25-2014 08:18 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
from a production standpoint, he has been overpaid for 3 years. Five million for 400 yards? I'd pass

exile 04-25-2014 09:01 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
It's his "show me" year. But my how the mighty RB position has fallen in today's NFL.

Jamessr 04-25-2014 09:42 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Lets say he has a break out year...
Whats the numbers look like to keep him? Is it even a money issue?

ScottF 04-25-2014 10:00 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by exile (Post 589695)
It's his "show me" year. But my how the mighty RB position has fallen in today's NFL.

actually it is a 'show me' week, as they have to decide by May 3

exile 04-25-2014 10:05 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by ScottF (Post 589707)
actually it is a 'show me' week, as they have to decide by May 3

Well I meant year in referernce to his career. With the Saints or otherwise.

Danno 04-25-2014 10:21 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 589701)
Lets say he has a break out year...
Whats the numbers look like to keep him? Is it even a money issue?

Yes its a money issue. 5 million is probably too much for a RB in this offense regardless.

TheOak 04-25-2014 10:31 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Jamessr (Post 589701)
Lets say he has a break out year...
Whats the numbers look like to keep him? Is it even a money issue?

Define "break out year"?

$5m is top 10 RB

He has to break 1000 yards and 7 or better TDs to get into the top 13 RBs. He has averaged 3 TDs and 500 yards.

Jamal Charles 1200 yards and 12 TDs 4.7m/year 13th highest average salary.

Marlboro Man 04-25-2014 10:43 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Sorry Mark, you're just not worth it. I want every player we draft or sign to become great. However, I'm not blind and with my experience of being a Saints fan from day 1 of the franchise, I know bad football and mediocre players when I see them. 5 mil for 400 yards is a ridiculous amount of money for what Ingram has done. This guy has played 3 years and has only gone over 100 yards twice and once in the 80-90 yard mark. Nothing personal against Ingram but he just isn't what we need. Look at Ivory who was an UDFA who consistently out ran Ingram, look at Khiry Robinson who has consistently out run Ingram, Look at PT who has consistently out run Ingram and even look at Cadet. These backs have all run behind the same O-Line, and Ingram has consistently come up short, no pun intended, lol. Mark has no one to blame but himself for his short comings, again no pun intended, lol, but it's time for us to move on. No matter how much any of us wants Ingram to "Break Out", odds are, it's just not gonna happen.

NonieT 04-25-2014 10:54 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Danno (Post 589712)
Yes its a money issue. 5 million is probably too much for a RB in this offense regardless.


In any offense it's too much money.

Danno 04-25-2014 12:01 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man (Post 589718)
... Look at Ivory who was an UDFA who consistently out ran Ingram, look at Khiry Robinson who has consistently out run Ingram,Look at PT who has consistently out run Ingram and even look at Cadet. These backs have all run behind the same O-Line, and Ingram has consistently come up short, no pun intended, lol. Mark has no one to blame but himself for his short comings, again no pun intended, lol, but it's time for us to move on. No matter how much any of us wants Ingram to "Break Out", odds are, it's just not gonna happen.

Nonsense, again.

Utah_Saint 04-25-2014 12:04 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
He came on at the end of the season, he played very well and I hope he continues to play at that level, but he doesn't deserve a big contract based on the last 4 or 5 games of a 3 year span.

hagan714 04-25-2014 02:06 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
he should be worried. so far he has not earned the money he has gotten or showed any value for the picks used to draft him. talent is there for sure. injury bug and probably the offense he is trapped in contribute greatly to his drop in worth to this team.

he has to prove he fits in or the saints need to cash in their chips and get whatever they can for him. Or let him walk as a FA.

so far he is just a mistake. saints and ingram are not a match made in heaven so far.

Seer1 04-25-2014 03:16 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
So if we don't pick it up, can we still resign him at a lower salary?

Danno 04-25-2014 03:22 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Seer1 (Post 589744)
So if we don't pick it up, can we still resign him at a lower salary?

Yes, which is why its not a big deal.

The only risk is he may decide to test the waters, which doesn't really hurt us considering how we use RB's.

ChrisXVI 04-25-2014 03:30 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
There's really no question... Let him go after this season. With our penchant for undrafted RB's there's no reason to pay him millions to keep him around. He's not gonna light it up this season... Even Bill Parcells has been telling Payton that Khiry Robinson is the truth and that will probably be the direction Payton wants to go in.

hagan714 04-25-2014 03:30 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
why resign him if after this year he just does not work in our system? as to date i see no reason to resign him at all

Danno 04-25-2014 03:50 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hagan714 (Post 589752)
why resign him if after this year he just does not work in our system? as to date i see no reason to resign him at all

Well obviously 2014 will likely decide if thats true or not.

burningmetal 04-25-2014 05:46 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Options are one of the most over-rated things in sports. Both the player and the team always have the option to stay together or part ways. It's just a technicality, and everyone knows it. There's the issue of not wanting some players to hit the market, but then again when it comes to agreeing to exercise a player option there has to be an agreement on terms of extension. Which isn't that different from dealing with the player as a free agent.

If he proves himself this year, they'll try to re-sign him. If he asks for too much then he'll walk. If he stinks it up, he'll be gone regardless. Why should we exercise any option until we know what he does with a little bit more of an expanded role?

Slow news cycle.

Mr.Riaton 04-25-2014 05:58 PM

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I wonder if Saints are planning on letting Mark go after this year regardless. And if so,are they gonna grab a back in the draft. If they do,who would yall like to see them pick up?

Danno 04-25-2014 06:12 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 589769)
I wonder if Saints are planning on letting Mark go after this year regardless. And if so,are they gonna grab a back in the draft. If they do,who would yall like to see them pick up?

I think 2014 is a make or break year for Mark in a Saints uniform. I'm not really worried about his performance nearly as much as his ability to stay healthy.

I think we may burn a mid to late pick on a scat back type RB that can create mismatches. Its gonna have to be a back that likely is too small for 15-20 touches per game, but can easily get 10 to 12.

DeAnthony Thomas is a name I keep hearing as a mid rounder.

voodooido 04-25-2014 07:13 PM

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No duh, Mark.

ChrisXVI 04-25-2014 07:29 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.Riaton (Post 589769)
I wonder if Saints are planning on letting Mark go after this year regardless. And if so,are they gonna grab a back in the draft. If they do,who would yall like to see them pick up?


Considering how the undrafted Khiry Robinson has looked every bit as good as Ingram with far fewer touches, yeah Ingram's a goner. As far as drafting a RB I'd say that will only happen if Loomis and Payton have a hard-on for some scat-back like Dri Archer or D'Anthony Thomas.

Mr.Riaton 04-25-2014 10:04 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
I would like another power back that runs over people like Ivory did. I dont want anymore scat backs. I want some big boys back there.

TwistedTiger 04-25-2014 10:12 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOak (Post 589714)
Define "break out year"?

$5m is top 10 RB

He has to break 1000 yards and 7 or better TDs to get into the top 13 RBs. He has averaged 3 TDs and 500 yards.

Jamal Charles 1200 yards and 12 TDs 4.7m/year 13th highest average salary.

Exactly! The Saints would be insane to pick up his option.

SmashMouth 04-26-2014 07:23 AM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
Think Mark Ingram is feeling the heat or something? Does he really even care?

ScottF 04-28-2014 07:08 PM

Re: Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
I don't think Ingram fits in this company:

» Over the Cap- Top NFL Contracts: Running Back

#massiveunderstatement

WhoDat!656 04-28-2014 10:00 PM

Mark Ingram not confident Saints will pick up his 5th-year option
 
The New Orleans Saints don't intend to pick up the fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, according to CBS Sports.

The Saints have already picked up the option on defensive end Cam Jordan, giving him a base salary of $6.97 million in 2015.

The team has not made any public announcement about their intentions. The Saints have until May 3 to exercise Ingram's option.That would reportedly come with a price tag of $5.2 million in base salary in 2015.

Ingram's contract will be up at the end of the season.

"I'm just working one day at a time, and I'm just glad I'm on a team that's a championship contender," he said when asked about the fifth-year option last week.

New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says | NOLA.com

SaintLeonard 04-29-2014 12:10 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says
 
I like this move. If Ingram proves 2013 wasn't a fluke, and he continues to be a good RB, then we can just resign him.
If it turns out 2013 was a fluke, his contract's up so we won't be stuck with him anymore.

Win-win situation here.

dizzle88 04-29-2014 02:52 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says
 
Probably the best move, there is no way one of our RB's is going to take up 5.2m of the cap unless they really tore it up

this way Ingram has to fight for a contract

SloMotion 04-29-2014 06:44 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says
 
Seems to be a growing tend in this era of out-of-control salaries? Or maybe I just don't pay enough attention to contract stuff, :lol: ... but the Lions declined picking up Nick Fairley's option year for much the same reasons ... they want him to make his money the old-fashioned way, they want him to earn it, ;).

SmashMouth 04-29-2014 07:06 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says
 
Whodathunkit? Earning your contract? NeauxFW.

ScottF 04-29-2014 07:50 AM

Re: New Orleans Saints won't exercise fifth-year option on running back Mark Ingram, report says
 
first year for the fifth year extension in new CBA- really doesn't seem to be working out too well for the players

The Dude 05-03-2014 02:11 PM

Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
Sorry if it's posted I didn't see a thread on it. What I understood is that he was under contract this year and we had the option to pick him up for one more year. So is he a FA now or will he be one next year?

SaintFanInATLHELL 05-03-2014 02:32 PM

Re: Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by The Dude (Post 590634)
Sorry if it's posted I didn't see a thread on it. What I understood is that he was under contract this year and we had the option to pick him up for one more year. So is he a FA now or will he be one next year?

Next year. The Saints would still have a chance to resign him, or even tag him in some way, if they felt it necessary.

But it's just Mickey doing what he does. Specifically, he'll either let Ingram go if he underperforms, or will let the market set his price and then decide if he wants to pay that cost if Ingram does step it up.

Honestly, running backs are now a cheap commodity in today's NFL. So it made little sense to lock Ingram into an expensive 5th year. Cam Jordan on the other hand is in a highly paid glamor position (DE). The $6+ million the Saints locked him in for 2015 is a bargain.

SFIAH

dizzle88 05-03-2014 03:01 PM

Re: Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
He would be one next year unless we work out a more cap friendly deal

In our team, a running back is never going to earn 5M unless they were put up sproles 2011 type numbers every year

Ingram needs to work for his contract and prove last seasons late success wasnt a fluke

|Mitch| 05-03-2014 03:19 PM

Re: Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
Yeah if we picked up the 5th year option it was worth 5 million; I feel that no running back is worth 5 million a year...

They'll either work out a cap friendlier deal or he will walk at the end of this season, he has to prove that he is worthy of a new deal...

hagan714 05-03-2014 03:37 PM

Re: Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
it gives both the team and mark and out

ScottF 05-03-2014 04:51 PM

Re: Saints let Mark Ingram become FA
 
we already had 3 threads on this
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