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this is a discussion within the Saints Community Forum; Originally Posted by K Major We should always look to improve on a defense, even if we are in the 'good' category. As for the offense... as long as we have Sean calling plays & Brees under center, I'm not ...

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Old 04-27-2014, 12:32 AM   #1
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Re: Patrick Robinson

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We should always look to improve on a defense, even if we are in the 'good' category.

As for the offense... as long as we have Sean calling plays & Brees under center, I'm not really all that worried.
How long is Brees gonna remain under center if he doesn't get some blocking and catching to help him out? Right now I'd say we have a better D than O.
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:59 PM   #2
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The only corner I would take in the first is Gilbert. Other than that, I feel very confident with what we have. If we go D in the first, then I think LB. Our D line is stout and young and we can get depth for that in later rds.
....oh,and even though we have like 4 safties,if Pryor fell in our lap, I wouldn't be upset about that either.
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I'm trying to figure out what we'd do with Pryor? I think retaining Bush at 3 mil means he's going to see the field, not to mention we brought in Marcus Ball from the CFL. If the Saints signed Pryor i'd honestly be scratching my head.
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I'm trying to figure out what we'd do with Pryor? I think retaining Bush at 3 mil means he's going to see the field, not to mention we brought in Marcus Ball from the CFL. If the Saints signed Pryor i'd honestly be scratching my head.
Ball has not done a thing so i do not count him beyond last Safety on the depth chart.

If the saints went a safety I would think Deone Bucannon would be the pick over Pryor. He's the faster, more productive and has better range than people give him credit for. plus i think he is the best tackling and hardest hitting safety in the draft. draft a player like this the saints can have probably the one of the best S rotation in the NFL . besides Kenny is not exactly a turnover machine. I think they used him last year in a way that best suits his skill set. Kenny is great at getting into players heads and knocking them around in the first five yards. add in another ball hawking safety like Deone would not hurt the group one bit. Bush and Deone together could start if any body goes down with injury. just think of the flexibility that would offer.

the same goes for CB. Verret is the only CB after Dennard that can hang in the first round in man coverage. I am warming up to Fuller but man coverage worse me a bit here.

Verret man on man with all them small fast slot WR all game long would be a great addition. That is his value. He is the best CB in the draft to deal with sub 6'1" speed demons one on one.

After that its all about development (man this draft has it share) and flexibility. Donte Johnson would be next on my list. over 6'2" and runs a sub 4.5 but has played every position in the secondary in college. There are other pure CB sure but not as flexible. kill two birds with one roster spot

Robinson would be safe either way besides when was the last time a CB in the NFL actually started all 16 games? very few. they always get dinged up. hammie here ankle there. plus he is in the final year of his contract so if does get injured again he is prime cutting material. only half of his final year would count as dead money if he does go down to another serious injury.

here is our depth chart

CB1 –- Keenan Lewis, Rod Sweeting, A.J. Davis, Trevin Wade

CB2 –- Champ Bailey, Corey White, Patrick Robinson, Terrence Frederick, Derrius Brooks

SS –- Kenny Vaccaro, Rafael Bush

FS –- Jairus Byrd, Marcus Ball

penciled sure fire depth chart

Keenan Lewis, Patrick Robinson, Corey White, Champ Bailey
Kenny Vaccaro, Jairus Byrd, Rafael Bush

on the bubble

Rod Sweeting, A.J. Davis, Trevin Wade, Terrence Frederick, Derrius Brooks, Marcus Ball, * i want to put Bailey in this group but i wont*

that is six spots up for grabs. i see plenty of room for adding and subtracting.

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Old 04-27-2014, 01:05 AM   #5
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I actually like Prob's craft, he has good speed and at times has great footwork. I do think he'd be best suited as a #2 CB and that's fine considering we have Lewis. But this season is likely his final shot with the Saints, it's make or break time for Prob.
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Patrick Robinson 2012 - 18 passes defended / 3 INTs
Patrick Robinson 2011 - 15 passes defended / 4 INTs

2011 - Robinson 10th best corner as per NFL rating




Keenan Lewis 2012 - 23 passes defended / 0 INTs
Keenan Lewis 2013 - 9 passes defended / 4 INTs

2013 Lewis 12th best corner as per NFL rating
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Patrick Robinson 2012 - 18 passes defended / 3 INTs
Patrick Robinson 2011 - 15 passes defended / 4 INTs

2011 - Robinson 10th best corner as per NFL rating




Keenan Lewis 2012 - 23 passes defended / 0 INTs
Keenan Lewis 2013 - 9 passes defended / 4 INTs

2013 Lewis 12th best corner as per NFL rating
Nice breakdown
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Nice breakdown
If we get 4 a piece from them coupled with 5 or 6 from Byrd....
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Patrick Robinson 2012 - 18 passes defended / 3 INTs
Patrick Robinson 2011 - 15 passes defended / 4 INTs

2011 - Robinson 10th best corner as per NFL rating




Keenan Lewis 2012 - 23 passes defended / 0 INTs
Keenan Lewis 2013 - 9 passes defended / 4 INTs

2013 Lewis 12th best corner as per NFL rating
and the other 26 defended by PRob were Td's
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and the other 26 defended by PRob were Td's

Source?
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