Lions shopping Suh

SloMotion · 04-29-2014, 08:14 AM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

... and let's just cherry pick stats from multiple seasons to support our case, ie 49 tackles, 5.5 sacks ... what season was that? For 2013 he had 36 tackles, 12 assists, 1 safety, 5.5 sacks (or less than 4 plays per game, and that was actually up from the two previous seasons) and none of them were important, game-changers, made a difference or came at crucial times during a game ...

Oh, never mind,

... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles,

... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL,

... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons,

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Jamessr · 04-29-2014, 08:30 AM

"IF" Suh was to somehow become a Saint...
Roger Goodell's @ss would tighten so much he'd sh*t diamonds.

RajunCajun23 · 04-29-2014, 09:13 AM

I would rather put money in CBs or WRs not him. John Jenkins looks like he will be solid and with Jordan and Hicks all he has to do is plug gaps. He's a big boy and his second year in the NFL will show he is the right guy for the right price.

dizzle88 · 04-29-2014, 09:23 AM

Suh is a terrific player but the last thing we would need is him stamping on somebody (which he's already done like 3 times) and raising all the bounty gate questions once again

pass

Seer1 · 04-29-2014, 09:42 AM

I don't know that we'd have to worry about that b********* thing. He seems pretty indiscriminate as to who he stomps on.

SmashMouth · 04-29-2014, 09:03 PM

Originally Posted by SloMotion

Oh, never mind, ... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles, ... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL, ... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons, .

Dude..... he is seriously overpaid then... seriously.

Seer1 · 04-29-2014, 09:37 PM

Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched.

SloMotion · 04-30-2014, 06:17 AM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched.

That's what I'm talking about ... I missed out on a lot of good football focusing on N-drama-kong for a season & a half in order to prove/dispel the "double-teamed on every play" myth ... he's "too fast" & it makes him ineffective vs the run, teams just wham-block him, he tends to get too tall in his stance which makes it easier for offensive lineman to stand him up & handle him mano-e-mano and his only real strength is controlling/getting in to pass rushing gaps and/or pursuing the play (when he chooses to,

), which is what the Lions got him for, but at what cost? He'd be an awesome D/T at $6-$8mil, just not $12.7 ... and he only gets doubled-teamed 1-in-4 plays ... teams don't have to double-team him, the Lions line him up in the same spot on every play, every game, so there's no need for fancy blocking schemes to neutralize the big lug,

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I just think there'd be more interest in signing him by the other NFL teams if he was all that he was cracked up/reputed to be ... but he's not,

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Marlboro Man · 04-30-2014, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by rezburna

I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though....

Seattle's kinda player for sure.

rezburna · 04-30-2014, 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by Marlboro Man

Seattle's kinda player for sure.

Seattle just won the ship. We could use some of their type of players.

04-29-2014, 08:14 AM	#21
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Lions shopping Suh Originally Posted by SloMotion ... and let's just cherry pick stats from multiple seasons to support our case, ie 49 tackles, 5.5 sacks ... what season was that? For 2013 he had 36 tackles, 12 assists, 1 safety, 5.5 sacks (or less than 4 plays per game, and that was actually up from the two previous seasons) and none of them were important, game-changers, made a difference or came at crucial times during a game ... Oh, never mind, ... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles, ... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL, ... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons, .

04-29-2014, 08:30 AM	#22
Jamessr 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Newport News, VA Posts: 1,583	Re: Lions shopping Suh "IF" Suh was to somehow become a Saint... Roger Goodell's @ss would tighten so much he'd sh*t diamonds.

04-29-2014, 09:13 AM	#23
RajunCajun23 Rookie Join Date: Nov 2013 Posts: 11 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Lions shopping Suh I would rather put money in CBs or WRs not him. John Jenkins looks like he will be solid and with Jordan and Hicks all he has to do is plug gaps. He's a big boy and his second year in the NFL will show he is the right guy for the right price. dizzle88 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,518	Re: Lions shopping Suh Suh is a terrific player but the last thing we would need is him stamping on somebody (which he's already done like 3 times) and raising all the bounty gate questions once again pass

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Lions shopping Suh I don't know that we'd have to worry about that b********* thing. He seems pretty indiscriminate as to who he stomps on.

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SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 38,472 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Lions shopping Suh Originally Posted by SloMotion Oh, never mind, ... I just saw his stats on Wikipedia and he's listed as having 49 combined tackles, ... and while we're busy referencing Wikipedia, let's not overlook what a stud he was in high school ... 65 tackles, 10 sacks & four fumble recoveries because we all know how important previous stats/performance are in the "what have you done for me lately" NFL, ... sorry guys, I've just grown tired of this debate over the past few seasons, . Dude..... he is seriously overpaid then... seriously.

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Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Lions shopping Suh Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched.

04-30-2014, 06:17 AM	#28
SloMotion 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jan 2012 Posts: 6,776 Blog Entries: 15	Re: Lions shopping Suh Originally Posted by Seer1 Only saw a couple of Detroit games, but He was owned by the OL in both games I watched. That's what I'm talking about ... I missed out on a lot of good football focusing on N-drama-kong for a season & a half in order to prove/dispel the "double-teamed on every play" myth ... he's "too fast" & it makes him ineffective vs the run, teams just wham-block him, he tends to get too tall in his stance which makes it easier for offensive lineman to stand him up & handle him mano-e-mano and his only real strength is controlling/getting in to pass rushing gaps and/or pursuing the play (when he chooses to, ), which is what the Lions got him for, but at what cost? He'd be an awesome D/T at $6-$8mil, just not $12.7 ... and he only gets doubled-teamed 1-in-4 plays ... teams don't have to double-team him, the Lions line him up in the same spot on every play, every game, so there's no need for fancy blocking schemes to neutralize the big lug, . I just think there'd be more interest in signing him by the other NFL teams if he was all that he was cracked up/reputed to be ... but he's not, . Rugby Saint II likes this.

04-30-2014, 10:49 AM	#29
Marlboro Man 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 1,469	Re: Lions shopping Suh Originally Posted by rezburna I don't think he's a problem at all. 49 tackles and 5.5 sacks from a DT is ridiculous. He had 10 sacks as rookie. Dude is ridiculous. He has no off the field issues. His only "problem" is he's overly physical. Some call him dirty. I call him productive. But yeah, too much money for the Saints. If he was making like $8 million though.... Seattle's kinda player for sure.

04-30-2014, 01:02 PM	#30
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 7,997	Re: Lions shopping Suh Originally Posted by Marlboro Man Seattle's kinda player for sure. Seattle just won the ship. We could use some of their type of players.

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