The Saints need o-line

SaintsBro · 05-07-2014, 10:33 AM

I don't know what they intend to do to address the problem, but I think that Payton was pretty darn embarrassed about the O-line last year. He said all the way back in August that he was worried about the left tackle spot, that he was losing sleep over it -- and it turned out he was exactly right. That can't happen again.

Seer1 · 05-07-2014, 11:06 AM

Originally Posted by QBREES9

It all starts with the five BIG men up front. If you can't block, can't open holes. You've got problems.

If you can't block then Drew throws many more Ints....

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 11:28 AM

The saints have zero "needs"... There are a couple of small question marks such as LT and C but we have personnel to fill those spots and its very unlikely they will preform at a lower level than those positions preformed last year which left us 11-5 and 1-1 in the Play-offs.

We have "wants", or "would likes"...

One would have a very difficult time convincing me that if we took the field with what we have now we wouldn't be equal to or better than last year considering our additions on Defense and the newly found health on both side of the ball.

Seer1 · 05-07-2014, 12:02 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The saints have zero "needs"... There are a couple of small question marks such as LT and C but we have personnel to fill those spots and its very unlikely they will preform at a lower level than those positions preformed last year which left us 11-5 and 1-1 in the Play-offs.

We have "wants", or "would likes"...

One would have a very difficult time convincing me that if we took the field with what we have now we wouldn't be equal to or better than last year considering our additions on Defense and the newly found health on both side of the ball.

I do like your optimism, Oak!

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 12:04 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

I do like your optimism, Oak!

I have two daughters 9 and 5 years of age... We are learning the difference between needs and wants.

They need lunch, they want something from the mall.

hagan714 · 05-07-2014, 12:48 PM

we have needs and OC is the only spot that worries me and drives a pick.

but in the first round? think not. as a matter of fact i think round 4 5 and 6 has some solid players to consider. so panic drafting is not needed

second level of need is back up depth.

so BPA all the way! position means nothing.

with that approach we should get some OL help your looking for. as a matter of fact i can see almost all your wishes being full filled

hennr · 05-07-2014, 04:48 PM

Saints need a back up left tackle as byrce an marcel are right tackles.only back up left tackle on roster is a 28 year old multi year arena player who has part of one year on the rams roster.An yes a center/guard type player to push letio.To get a left takle will take 91st pick an one of the 5th round be it 167th or 169th for a center/guard O-lineman.

Euphoria · 05-07-2014, 07:19 PM

WILL EVERYONE STOP WITH THIS NEEDS BS!!!

We DO NOT draft on NEEDS... we draft BPA. Get over it and enjoy the ride.

Danno · 05-07-2014, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by Euphoria

WILL EVERYONE STOP WITH THIS NEEDS BS!!!

We DO NOT draft on NEEDS... we draft BPA. Get over it and enjoy the ride.

Agreed, but I do think need factors in, or at the least non-need (QB, OG, FB, FS, SS, TE, P, LS, DE)

I think if players are rated relatively close, non-need may push a player down a notch over a position where we could use an upgrade.

But for the most part your correct. We enter every draft with needs addressed in free agency allowing us numerous options in every round during the draft.

hennr · 05-07-2014, 08:59 PM

when a team is cash poor with the cap an you only have 62 players including jimmy who could be a hold out you have to draft need positions as they do not have the money to sign more quality vets to plug roster holes.so YES WE DO DRAFT NEEDS THIS YEAR.

05-07-2014, 10:33 AM	#11
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: The Saints need o-line I don't know what they intend to do to address the problem, but I think that Payton was pretty darn embarrassed about the O-line last year. He said all the way back in August that he was worried about the left tackle spot, that he was losing sleep over it -- and it turned out he was exactly right. That can't happen again.

05-07-2014, 11:06 AM	#12
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: The Saints need o-line Originally Posted by QBREES9 It all starts with the five BIG men up front. If you can't block, can't open holes. You've got problems. If you can't block then Drew throws many more Ints....

05-07-2014, 11:28 AM	#13
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: The Saints need o-line The saints have zero "needs"... There are a couple of small question marks such as LT and C but we have personnel to fill those spots and its very unlikely they will preform at a lower level than those positions preformed last year which left us 11-5 and 1-1 in the Play-offs. We have "wants", or "would likes"... One would have a very difficult time convincing me that if we took the field with what we have now we wouldn't be equal to or better than last year considering our additions on Defense and the newly found health on both side of the ball. Danno likes this.
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05-07-2014, 12:02 PM	#14
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: The Saints need o-line Originally Posted by TheOak The saints have zero "needs"... There are a couple of small question marks such as LT and C but we have personnel to fill those spots and its very unlikely they will preform at a lower level than those positions preformed last year which left us 11-5 and 1-1 in the Play-offs. We have "wants", or "would likes"... One would have a very difficult time convincing me that if we took the field with what we have now we wouldn't be equal to or better than last year considering our additions on Defense and the newly found health on both side of the ball. I do like your optimism, Oak!

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,026	Re: The Saints need o-line Originally Posted by Seer1 I do like your optimism, Oak! I have two daughters 9 and 5 years of age... We are learning the difference between needs and wants. They need lunch, they want something from the mall. Danno, hagan714 and Seer1 like this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: The Saints need o-line we have needs and OC is the only spot that worries me and drives a pick. but in the first round? think not. as a matter of fact i think round 4 5 and 6 has some solid players to consider. so panic drafting is not needed second level of need is back up depth. so BPA all the way! position means nothing. with that approach we should get some OL help your looking for. as a matter of fact i can see almost all your wishes being full filled

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hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: The Saints need o-line Saints need a back up left tackle as byrce an marcel are right tackles.only back up left tackle on roster is a 28 year old multi year arena player who has part of one year on the rams roster.An yes a center/guard type player to push letio.To get a left takle will take 91st pick an one of the 5th round be it 167th or 169th for a center/guard O-lineman.
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Euphoria 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Hollywood, CA Posts: 7,601 Blog Entries: 5	Re: The Saints need o-line WILL EVERYONE STOP WITH THIS NEEDS BS!!! We DO NOT draft on NEEDS... we draft BPA. Get over it and enjoy the ride. Danno likes this.

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,720	Re: The Saints need o-line Originally Posted by Euphoria WILL EVERYONE STOP WITH THIS NEEDS BS!!! We DO NOT draft on NEEDS... we draft BPA. Get over it and enjoy the ride. Agreed, but I do think need factors in, or at the least non-need (QB, OG, FB, FS, SS, TE, P, LS, DE) I think if players are rated relatively close, non-need may push a player down a notch over a position where we could use an upgrade. But for the most part your correct. We enter every draft with needs addressed in free agency allowing us numerous options in every round during the draft.

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hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: The Saints need o-line when a team is cash poor with the cap an you only have 62 players including jimmy who could be a hold out you have to draft need positions as they do not have the money to sign more quality vets to plug roster holes.so YES WE DO DRAFT NEEDS THIS YEAR.
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