Triplett trades up

TwistedTiger · 05-07-2014, 06:43 AM

Originally Posted by triman

Mike Evans would be worth trading up for. Brees would make that boy a star.

Most overrated player in the draft.

triman · 05-06-2014, 09:09 PM

A#1 WR is a prime need it might be the time to roll the dice . Might want to double down and pick two.Maybe even three. Loomis gets what he wants.

hagan714 · 05-06-2014, 09:46 PM

Originally Posted by triman

A#1 WR is a prime need it might be the time to roll the dice . Might want to double down and pick two.Maybe even three. Loomis gets what he wants.

There is the rub. there how many WR in round 1 that deserve that title?

i count maybe 1.

as #2 there are what 2 maybe 3?

specialty WR / slot another 2 ?

pass. pray one maybe 2 QB gets draft in the top 26 then kidnap the best one on the board and hold him for ransom.

now that is a better plan in my book as long as it is not a QB named Johnny

QBREES9 · 05-06-2014, 09:22 PM

best player available.

hennr · 05-06-2014, 11:35 PM

Lets look at the holes others post the saints do not have,1st hole at wr a colston ageing-morgan comming off back to back ir-toon could be a bust-is cadet someone to replace sproles skill set-watson age at te position-no backup left tackle byrce an marcel are right tackles now the back up left tackle is a ex arena player.no back up center to push letio-a kicker at end of line age wise hope he has another year-6 big d linemen no depth saints keep 7 at position-only 4 safteys on roster think they keep 5 so need a 5th saftey-you always look to up grade the 5th cb spot that takes up a draft pick-two olb coming off ir no quality depth-is it time to draft a qb yes they like the tulane qb but good to have a late pick to compete with the tulane qb if both look good in camp then cut the vet back up younger an cheaper if not one gos to pt squad till next year. That a lot of HOLES you could use 12 picks two alone at wr to up grade roster an now they have 7 picks. Some wish a trade up that could leave them with 5 picks no TRADE ups we need trade downs- go from 7 to say 9 picks hope for three ufda gems an upgrade roster get younger an cheaper young players also less likely to get hurt but you need enough rookies of top quality to allow this long term up grade of roster.Do not get hung up on one player look at the overall roster depth :

burningmetal · 05-07-2014, 02:59 AM

I can't imagine any real life scenario where the Saints would trade up for Cooks. I don't even want the guy period. Not because he isn't any good, but because he reminds me of the type of receiver we always seem to find without spending a high draft choice. But trade up for him? I don't think so.

If the Saints are dead set on picking a WR then I think there are more than enough good one's and none of them are clear cut better than the rest (other than MAYBE Watkins) to where there shouldn't be any need to trade up for one.

TheOak · 05-07-2014, 06:51 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I can't imagine any real life scenario where the Saints would trade up for Cooks. I don't even want the guy period. Not because he isn't any good, but because he reminds me of the type of receiver we always seem to find without spending a high draft choice. But trade up for him? I don't think so.

If the Saints are dead set on picking a WR then I think there are more than enough good one's and none of them are clear cut better than the rest (other than MAYBE Watkins) to where there shouldn't be any need to trade up for one.

The draft is consistently the unexpected... Which is why we have 50,000 mock drafts and none are 100% accurate.

Honestly, who was the last person the Saints drafted that you knew was going to be drafted before they called his name?

There is no logic to apply, its mostly guessing, which is why no one does 1 mock draft and sticks to it.

burningmetal · 05-08-2014, 02:04 AM

Originally Posted by TheOak

The draft is consistently the unexpected... Which is why we have 50,000 mock drafts and none are 100% accurate.

Honestly, who was the last person the Saints drafted that you knew was going to be drafted before they called his name?

There is no logic to apply, its mostly guessing, which is why no one does 1 mock draft and sticks to it.

I disagree with the last part. Anyone can guess. It's no secret that none of us can know exactly what will happen, but there is certainly logic that can be applied. Cooks is just a slot type guy. Those are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. You put small, fast guys in the right system and watch them go. There's no reason to trade up in the first round for one. If we're going to draft a WR in the first, at all, it would make far more sense to go with more of an outside threat.

That's my logic, and I AM sticking to it. All this mock crap gets on my nerves.

TheOak · 05-08-2014, 06:23 AM

Originally Posted by burningmetal

I disagree with the last part. Anyone can guess. It's no secret that none of us can know exactly what will happen, but there is certainly logic that can be applied. Cooks is just a slot type guy. Those are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. You put small, fast guys in the right system and watch them go. There's no reason to trade up in the first round for one. If we're going to draft a WR in the first, at all, it would make far more sense to go with more of an outside threat.

That's my logic, and I AM sticking to it. All this mock crap gets on my nerves.

When I say there is no logic applied it is because there is no 1 logic. Essentially 26 different logic's will pick before we will and that many is anarchy

. It has also been said that in the case of Mark Ingram, an emotional purchase was made because Sean Payton's kid liked him... So there is no way to map out how any 1 team will draft, much less 32.

The opposite is also true, ever see a group of emo teenagers all in black with makeup etc? They are all striving to be different, however they just end up creating a new same because they are all sharing the same logic.

burningmetal · 05-09-2014, 04:15 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

When I say there is no logic applied it is because there is no 1 logic. Essentially 26 different logic's will pick before we will and that many is anarchy . It has also been said that in the case of Mark Ingram, an emotional purchase was made because Sean Payton's kid liked him... So there is no way to map out how any 1 team will draft, much less 32.

The opposite is also true, ever see a group of emo teenagers all in black with makeup etc? They are all striving to be different, however they just end up creating a new same because they are all sharing the same logic.

There might not be one consensus logic for all, but everyone one person needs to find some sort of angle, or logic, as to how he sees it and stick to it. Picking 30 different scenarios is just a cop out. Why not just pick 300 different mocks so no matter who they take, you can say you were right.

That's what's stupid about it. It's not a mock when you do that, it's just a bunch of different guesses, hoping that you might get one right.

Telling me that there are 26 different logic's before us is a silly way of putting it. When you do a mock you are SUPPOSED to be factoring in what you think all the other teams will do and how that will affect what your team does. So you try to gather as much information as is possible and put down you're most likely scenario what you think will happen. You know you might be way off, but that's just the way it is.

When you just guess a billion different things, you aren't applying any reason. And yes, I am posting this after the Saints have taken Cooks, but right to my point I can't give Triplett credit when it was just his latest guess. If it were inside information, then he would have said we're trading up to 20, instead of 19 as he said.

05-07-2014, 06:43 AM	#1
TwistedTiger 100th Post Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 180	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by triman Mike Evans would be worth trading up for. Brees would make that boy a star. Most overrated player in the draft.
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05-06-2014, 09:09 PM	#2
triman 500th Post Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 783	Re: Triplett trades up A#1 WR is a prime need it might be the time to roll the dice . Might want to double down and pick two.Maybe even three. Loomis gets what he wants. hagan714 likes this.
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05-06-2014, 09:46 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by triman A#1 WR is a prime need it might be the time to roll the dice . Might want to double down and pick two.Maybe even three. Loomis gets what he wants. There is the rub. there how many WR in round 1 that deserve that title? i count maybe 1. as #2 there are what 2 maybe 3? specialty WR / slot another 2 ? pass. pray one maybe 2 QB gets draft in the top 26 then kidnap the best one on the board and hold him for ransom. now that is a better plan in my book as long as it is not a QB named Johnny

05-06-2014, 09:22 PM	#4
QBREES9 Moderator Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: New Haven Ct Posts: 23,990	Re: Triplett trades up best player available. hagan714 likes this.

05-06-2014, 11:35 PM	#5
hennr 100th Post Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 262	Re: Triplett trades up Lets look at the holes others post the saints do not have,1st hole at wr a colston ageing-morgan comming off back to back ir-toon could be a bust-is cadet someone to replace sproles skill set-watson age at te position-no backup left tackle byrce an marcel are right tackles now the back up left tackle is a ex arena player.no back up center to push letio-a kicker at end of line age wise hope he has another year-6 big d linemen no depth saints keep 7 at position-only 4 safteys on roster think they keep 5 so need a 5th saftey-you always look to up grade the 5th cb spot that takes up a draft pick-two olb coming off ir no quality depth-is it time to draft a qb yes they like the tulane qb but good to have a late pick to compete with the tulane qb if both look good in camp then cut the vet back up younger an cheaper if not one gos to pt squad till next year. That a lot of HOLES you could use 12 picks two alone at wr to up grade roster an now they have 7 picks. Some wish a trade up that could leave them with 5 picks no TRADE ups we need trade downs- go from 7 to say 9 picks hope for three ufda gems an upgrade roster get younger an cheaper young players also less likely to get hurt but you need enough rookies of top quality to allow this long term up grade of roster.Do not get hung up on one player look at the overall roster depth : Rugby Saint II likes this.
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05-07-2014, 02:59 AM	#6
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Triplett trades up I can't imagine any real life scenario where the Saints would trade up for Cooks. I don't even want the guy period. Not because he isn't any good, but because he reminds me of the type of receiver we always seem to find without spending a high draft choice. But trade up for him? I don't think so. If the Saints are dead set on picking a WR then I think there are more than enough good one's and none of them are clear cut better than the rest (other than MAYBE Watkins) to where there shouldn't be any need to trade up for one. saintsfan1976 likes this.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

05-07-2014, 06:51 AM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by burningmetal I can't imagine any real life scenario where the Saints would trade up for Cooks. I don't even want the guy period. Not because he isn't any good, but because he reminds me of the type of receiver we always seem to find without spending a high draft choice. But trade up for him? I don't think so. If the Saints are dead set on picking a WR then I think there are more than enough good one's and none of them are clear cut better than the rest (other than MAYBE Watkins) to where there shouldn't be any need to trade up for one. The draft is consistently the unexpected... Which is why we have 50,000 mock drafts and none are 100% accurate. Honestly, who was the last person the Saints drafted that you knew was going to be drafted before they called his name? There is no logic to apply, its mostly guessing, which is why no one does 1 mock draft and sticks to it.

05-08-2014, 02:04 AM	#8
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by TheOak The draft is consistently the unexpected... Which is why we have 50,000 mock drafts and none are 100% accurate. Honestly, who was the last person the Saints drafted that you knew was going to be drafted before they called his name? There is no logic to apply, its mostly guessing, which is why no one does 1 mock draft and sticks to it. I disagree with the last part. Anyone can guess. It's no secret that none of us can know exactly what will happen, but there is certainly logic that can be applied. Cooks is just a slot type guy. Those are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. You put small, fast guys in the right system and watch them go. There's no reason to trade up in the first round for one. If we're going to draft a WR in the first, at all, it would make far more sense to go with more of an outside threat. That's my logic, and I AM sticking to it. All this mock crap gets on my nerves.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

05-08-2014, 06:23 AM	#9
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,047	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by burningmetal I disagree with the last part. Anyone can guess. It's no secret that none of us can know exactly what will happen, but there is certainly logic that can be applied. Cooks is just a slot type guy. Those are a dime a dozen in today's NFL. You put small, fast guys in the right system and watch them go. There's no reason to trade up in the first round for one. If we're going to draft a WR in the first, at all, it would make far more sense to go with more of an outside threat. That's my logic, and I AM sticking to it. All this mock crap gets on my nerves. When I say there is no logic applied it is because there is no 1 logic. Essentially 26 different logic's will pick before we will and that many is anarchy . It has also been said that in the case of Mark Ingram, an emotional purchase was made because Sean Payton's kid liked him... So there is no way to map out how any 1 team will draft, much less 32. The opposite is also true, ever see a group of emo teenagers all in black with makeup etc? They are all striving to be different, however they just end up creating a new same because they are all sharing the same logic.
	It's not what you look at that matters, it's what you see. ~ Henry David Thoreau

05-09-2014, 04:15 PM	#10
burningmetal 1000 Posts + Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 3,923 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Triplett trades up Originally Posted by TheOak When I say there is no logic applied it is because there is no 1 logic. Essentially 26 different logic's will pick before we will and that many is anarchy . It has also been said that in the case of Mark Ingram, an emotional purchase was made because Sean Payton's kid liked him... So there is no way to map out how any 1 team will draft, much less 32. The opposite is also true, ever see a group of emo teenagers all in black with makeup etc? They are all striving to be different, however they just end up creating a new same because they are all sharing the same logic. There might not be one consensus logic for all, but everyone one person needs to find some sort of angle, or logic, as to how he sees it and stick to it. Picking 30 different scenarios is just a cop out. Why not just pick 300 different mocks so no matter who they take, you can say you were right. That's what's stupid about it. It's not a mock when you do that, it's just a bunch of different guesses, hoping that you might get one right. Telling me that there are 26 different logic's before us is a silly way of putting it. When you do a mock you are SUPPOSED to be factoring in what you think all the other teams will do and how that will affect what your team does. So you try to gather as much information as is possible and put down you're most likely scenario what you think will happen. You know you might be way off, but that's just the way it is. When you just guess a billion different things, you aren't applying any reason. And yes, I am posting this after the Saints have taken Cooks, but right to my point I can't give Triplett credit when it was just his latest guess. If it were inside information, then he would have said we're trading up to 20, instead of 19 as he said.
	If I had a nickel for every time I heard that, the NFL would fine and suspend me.

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