NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says

Danno · 05-08-2014, 12:36 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Oak, you know quite a lot about this stuff so I thought I'd ask a question to clear this jimmy graham thing up for me.

Regardless of what the league says he is - a WR/TE, what happens when the franchise tag figure comes back if a long term deal is not done?

The main reason I ask is because an article I read recently, said if a team puts an offer in for him and we don't match we get there 2015 and 2016 first round picks? Is this correct?

If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders.

But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks.

To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option.

dizzle88 · 05-08-2014, 12:39 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders.

But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks.

To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option.

Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!

Danno · 05-08-2014, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!

Jimmy would have to want to sign with them, and I just don't see it unless they offer him an absurd deal he can't refuse.

Here's a twist, if a team trades their 2015 pick tonight, and then next week makes a play on Jimmy, we may then only get their 2016 and 2017 picks.

Seems like there should be a clause that prohibits teams without their next two 1st round picks from trying that little trick.

AsylumGuido · 05-08-2014, 12:55 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested.

Come on cleveland, you know you want to!

As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees.

Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal.

ScottF · 05-08-2014, 01:08 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees.

Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal.

no team has, nor has any tagged player sat out a season (not signed the tag)

05-08-2014, 12:36 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by dizzle88 Oak, you know quite a lot about this stuff so I thought I'd ask a question to clear this jimmy graham thing up for me. Regardless of what the league says he is - a WR/TE, what happens when the franchise tag figure comes back if a long term deal is not done? The main reason I ask is because an article I read recently, said if a team puts an offer in for him and we don't match we get there 2015 and 2016 first round picks? Is this correct? If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders. But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks. To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option. dizzle88 likes this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by Danno If it had occurred last week, we would have gotten their 2014 and 2015 1st rounders. But now its too late to include the 2014 pick, so we'd get their 2015 and 2016 picks. To be honest, if a team was going to make a play for him, the smart thing to do would be wait until the 2014 pick wasn't an option. Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested. Come on cleveland, you know you want to!

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,758	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by dizzle88 Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested. Come on cleveland, you know you want to! Jimmy would have to want to sign with them, and I just don't see it unless they offer him an absurd deal he can't refuse. Here's a twist, if a team trades their 2015 pick tonight, and then next week makes a play on Jimmy, we may then only get their 2016 and 2017 picks. Seems like there should be a clause that prohibits teams without their next two 1st round picks from trying that little trick.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,676	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by dizzle88 Thanks danno! so there is still a possibility that we could get some picks for graham if a team was interested. Come on cleveland, you know you want to! As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees. Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal. Danno likes this.

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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: NFLPA files grievance against New Orleans Saints on behalf of tight end Jimmy Graham, source says Originally Posted by AsylumGuido As far as I know no team has ever signed a non-exclusively franchise tagged player. Two first round picks are simply far too prohibitive for anything less than a franchise QB, which is why Loomis placed the exclusive tag on Brees. Graham will remain a Saint and will get the long-term deal. no team has, nor has any tagged player sat out a season (not signed the tag)

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