Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners?

Danno · 05-11-2014, 04:34 PM

Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds.

nola_swammi · 05-11-2014, 04:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds.

Vinnie won't even play this year, so I guess he will be on IR

dizzle88 · 05-11-2014, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

Vinnie won't even play this year, so I guess he will be on IR

How do you know he won't play, he's fully recovered from his ACL tear which was nearly 8 months ago now and said he feels better than ever

I think he'll do great on special teams

nola_swammi · 05-11-2014, 04:50 PM

We will see, I don't have a crystal ball I don't know how they will pan out I pray that they all able to contribute and have successful career with or without the saints but I don't feel comfortable with these picks. Hopefully I a wrong and I eat crow (especially for Vinnie)

dizzle88 · 05-11-2014, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds.

Agreed, If knee surgeries were as big of a deal as they used to be, colston and reggie bush would have retired about 5 seasons ago

TheOak · 05-11-2014, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

No I didn't say that. My concern is that they will be on IR til they rookie contract is over or worst they be cut. They do have potential but is the risk worth the reward from where they were selected in the draft?

How is this year any different from past?

Ivory......

Morgan.....

Butler.......

Vilma.... People still want to keep him

Hartley.... Same as Vilma

4th round and below are not starters, what difference does it make this season if they need time to heal but have more upside than healthier draft picks?

So what if 4th or below are cut? If they don't make it, next man up. We are allowed to have 53 and there will be over 80 at camp.

Other than 2012.... When has Sean screwed this team? I believe some are still suffering PTSD from the Pre Payton era.

Here is a riddle for you... Who was the last team that looked like champions on paper and ended up champions? Don't say Seattle they are full of 5,6 round picks. Someone is finding obscure talent, taking a risk, and making them better. Just like Payton does.

You know who wasn't laughing at Percy Harvin getting paid and only playing in a hand full of plays? Denver.

nola_swammi · 05-11-2014, 05:22 PM

I am in a loop, I am voicing my opinion. In a nutshell I do not want this to turn out to be a 2011 draft. Call me spoiled are whatever but after 2006 draft when Sean Payton 1st took over I expect/judge all drafts to 2006.

nola_swammi · 05-11-2014, 08:04 PM

The Review: The Saints did not have many picks but selected a group of tough, physical players. Cooks was the Biletnikoff Award winner as the nation's top receiver at Oregon State last season. Jean-Baptiste is a big corner (6-foot-3) and Sunseri will provide nice depth at safety.

NFL Draft 2014 grades: Final reviews for all 32 teams | NOLA.com

hagan714 · 05-11-2014, 08:12 PM

Originally Posted by nola_swammi

The Review: The Saints did not have many picks but selected a group of tough, physical players. Cooks was the Biletnikoff Award winner as the nation's top receiver at Oregon State last season. Jean-Baptiste is a big corner (6-foot-3) and Sunseri will provide nice depth at safety.

NFL Draft 2014 grades: Final reviews for all 32 teams | NOLA.com

the first to media names so yeah they are liked and hyped. Sunseri will save the later part of the draft for the saints. other than that it is the same ol same ol. couple players stick for a year or two get cut and we keep 3.

New Orleans Saints All-Time Draft History - Pro-Football-Reference.com

a couple of gems here and there does not cover up the average job we do drafting in the later rounds

I pray each year and hold out hope for each pick to make an impact some where some how. i will do the same again this year

hagan714 · 05-11-2014, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds.

yeah that is why we got a whirlpool club every year with pretty much the same players. they rotate out as contracts expire.

the success rate maybe higher than in the past it is not an injury to take lightly. it is a major injury and still career ending for most players.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by Danno Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds. Vinnie won't even play this year, so I guess he will be on IR

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by nola_swammi Vinnie won't even play this year, so I guess he will be on IR How do you know he won't play, he's fully recovered from his ACL tear which was nearly 8 months ago now and said he feels better than ever I think he'll do great on special teams mleg1972 likes this.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? We will see, I don't have a crystal ball I don't know how they will pan out I pray that they all able to contribute and have successful career with or without the saints but I don't feel comfortable with these picks. Hopefully I a wrong and I eat crow (especially for Vinnie)

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,541	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by Danno Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds. Agreed, If knee surgeries were as big of a deal as they used to be, colston and reggie bush would have retired about 5 seasons ago mleg1972 likes this.

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TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,050	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by nola_swammi No I didn't say that. My concern is that they will be on IR til they rookie contract is over or worst they be cut. They do have potential but is the risk worth the reward from where they were selected in the draft? How is this year any different from past? Ivory...... Morgan..... Butler....... Vilma.... People still want to keep him Hartley.... Same as Vilma 4th round and below are not starters, what difference does it make this season if they need time to heal but have more upside than healthier draft picks? So what if 4th or below are cut? If they don't make it, next man up. We are allowed to have 53 and there will be over 80 at camp. Other than 2012.... When has Sean screwed this team? I believe some are still suffering PTSD from the Pre Payton era. Here is a riddle for you... Who was the last team that looked like champions on paper and ended up champions? Don't say Seattle they are full of 5,6 round picks. Someone is finding obscure talent, taking a risk, and making them better. Just like Payton does. You know who wasn't laughing at Percy Harvin getting paid and only playing in a hand full of plays? Denver.
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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? I am in a loop, I am voicing my opinion. In a nutshell I do not want this to turn out to be a 2011 draft. Call me spoiled are whatever but after 2006 draft when Sean Payton 1st took over I expect/judge all drafts to 2006.

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nola_swammi 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Monroe, La Posts: 2,627	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? The Review: The Saints did not have many picks but selected a group of tough, physical players. Cooks was the Biletnikoff Award winner as the nation's top receiver at Oregon State last season. Jean-Baptiste is a big corner (6-foot-3) and Sunseri will provide nice depth at safety. NFL Draft 2014 grades: Final reviews for all 32 teams \| NOLA.com hagan714 likes this.

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by nola_swammi The Review: The Saints did not have many picks but selected a group of tough, physical players. Cooks was the Biletnikoff Award winner as the nation's top receiver at Oregon State last season. Jean-Baptiste is a big corner (6-foot-3) and Sunseri will provide nice depth at safety. NFL Draft 2014 grades: Final reviews for all 32 teams \| NOLA.com the first to media names so yeah they are liked and hyped. Sunseri will save the later part of the draft for the saints. other than that it is the same ol same ol. couple players stick for a year or two get cut and we keep 3. New Orleans Saints All-Time Draft History - Pro-Football-Reference.com a couple of gems here and there does not cover up the average job we do drafting in the later rounds I pray each year and hold out hope for each pick to make an impact some where some how. i will do the same again this year nola_swammi likes this.
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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Really!!! With 2 picks saints classified as winners? Originally Posted by Danno Some of you must think its 1980 concerning these injuries. Knee injuries aren't what they used to be, especially for 21 year olds. yeah that is why we got a whirlpool club every year with pretty much the same players. they rotate out as contracts expire. the success rate maybe higher than in the past it is not an injury to take lightly. it is a major injury and still career ending for most players.

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