Stadium Poll

The Dude · 05-21-2014, 02:41 PM

Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof.

exile · 05-21-2014, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof.

Great ideas. But we have to do something for parking which is a pain in the Falcon (a**). And doesn't the picture look nice with it along the waterway? Is there a block of buildings somewhere close to the riverfront that we can destroy?

SaintsBro · 05-22-2014, 07:24 AM

Originally Posted by The Dude

Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof.

This is a good post and I like the discussion, even though I don't wholly agree with you Dude -- I think the Dome still rocks and has some life in her yet.

But I just wanted to point out to the group, in this discussion, I am pretty sure that it's been talked about before; but from what I've heard, I believe it's impossible to renovate the current Dome with a retractable roof, because of the way it's designed, and the weight, the shape and load bearing of the sides or walls....it couldn't be done with the structure that's there....I think I heard this years ago from one of the old architects at Curtis & Davis. From what I understand, it would have to basically be a whole new structure (whole new sides and walls) on the same site, if you wanted to do a retractable roof. It's an engineering thing.

Crusader · 05-22-2014, 07:44 AM

Originally Posted by SaintsBro

This is a good post and I like the discussion, even though I don't wholly agree with you Dude -- I think the Dome still rocks and has some life in her yet.

But I just wanted to point out to the group, in this discussion, I am pretty sure that it's been talked about before; but from what I've heard, I believe it's impossible to renovate the current Dome with a retractable roof, because of the way it's designed, and the weight, the shape and load bearing of the sides or walls....it couldn't be done with the structure that's there....I think I heard this years ago from one of the old architects at Curtis & Davis. From what I understand, it would have to basically be a whole new structure (whole new sides and walls) on the same site, if you wanted to do a retractable roof. It's an engineering thing.

What would be pretty cool is if they would build a new dome on the same spot with al the modern hoopla and a retractable roof that still looks like the old dome.

TheOak · 05-22-2014, 12:49 PM

Originally Posted by Crusader

What would be pretty cool is if they would build a new dome on the same spot with al the modern hoopla and a retractable roof that still looks like the old dome.

Domes do not have retractable roofs, those are stadiums, a dome doesn't leave you with a place for the roof to retract to, unless it functions like a camera shutter and that would be expensive as hell, along with being an architectural feat to make it withstand hurricanes. To put what ever it would be anywhere but where the Dome is now doesn't make any sense, but to tear down and rebuild means the Saints would have to play somewhere else for a few seasons.

Jerry World took about 4 years from ground breaking to opening and i have yet to see Louisiana do anything on time, under budget..

exile · 05-22-2014, 12:58 PM

Originally Posted by TheOak

Domes do not have retractable roofs, those are stadiums, a dome doesn't leave you with a place for the roof to retract to, unless it functions like a camera shutter and that would be expensive as hell, along with being an architectural feat to make it withstand hurricanes.

Like this?

TheOak · 05-22-2014, 01:15 PM

Originally Posted by exile

Like this?

"Kinda-sorta" (The coonass is coming out in me now), but no, that has a pinwheel-ish design...

If you look closely that cad drawing or model has a suspended center and no place for the panels to go if they did separate and rotate away.

Now, look at the angles and shape, where do you think what would have finally rested after Katrina?

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05-21-2014, 02:41 PM	#1
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: Stadium Poll Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof. exile, Sarik and AliJee like this.
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05-21-2014, 03:23 PM	#2
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by The Dude Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof. Great ideas. But we have to do something for parking which is a pain in the Falcon (a**). And doesn't the picture look nice with it along the waterway? Is there a block of buildings somewhere close to the riverfront that we can destroy?
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05-22-2014, 07:24 AM	#3
SaintsBro Site Donor Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: in line with my ridiculous CLEAR PLASTIC BAG Posts: 3,650 Blog Entries: 3	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by The Dude Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof. This is a good post and I like the discussion, even though I don't wholly agree with you Dude -- I think the Dome still rocks and has some life in her yet. But I just wanted to point out to the group, in this discussion, I am pretty sure that it's been talked about before; but from what I've heard, I believe it's impossible to renovate the current Dome with a retractable roof, because of the way it's designed, and the weight, the shape and load bearing of the sides or walls....it couldn't be done with the structure that's there....I think I heard this years ago from one of the old architects at Curtis & Davis. From what I understand, it would have to basically be a whole new structure (whole new sides and walls) on the same site, if you wanted to do a retractable roof. It's an engineering thing. Crusader likes this.
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05-22-2014, 07:44 AM	#4
Crusader Resident Swede Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Märsta, Sweden Posts: 8,030	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by SaintsBro This is a good post and I like the discussion, even though I don't wholly agree with you Dude -- I think the Dome still rocks and has some life in her yet. But I just wanted to point out to the group, in this discussion, I am pretty sure that it's been talked about before; but from what I've heard, I believe it's impossible to renovate the current Dome with a retractable roof, because of the way it's designed, and the weight, the shape and load bearing of the sides or walls....it couldn't be done with the structure that's there....I think I heard this years ago from one of the old architects at Curtis & Davis. From what I understand, it would have to basically be a whole new structure (whole new sides and walls) on the same site, if you wanted to do a retractable roof. It's an engineering thing. What would be pretty cool is if they would build a new dome on the same spot with al the modern hoopla and a retractable roof that still looks like the old dome.

05-22-2014, 12:49 PM	#5
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by Crusader What would be pretty cool is if they would build a new dome on the same spot with al the modern hoopla and a retractable roof that still looks like the old dome. Domes do not have retractable roofs, those are stadiums, a dome doesn't leave you with a place for the roof to retract to, unless it functions like a camera shutter and that would be expensive as hell, along with being an architectural feat to make it withstand hurricanes. To put what ever it would be anywhere but where the Dome is now doesn't make any sense, but to tear down and rebuild means the Saints would have to play somewhere else for a few seasons. Jerry World took about 4 years from ground breaking to opening and i have yet to see Louisiana do anything on time, under budget.. Joker likes this.
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05-22-2014, 12:58 PM	#6
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by TheOak Domes do not have retractable roofs, those are stadiums, a dome doesn't leave you with a place for the roof to retract to, unless it functions like a camera shutter and that would be expensive as hell, along with being an architectural feat to make it withstand hurricanes. Like this?
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05-22-2014, 01:15 PM	#7
TheOak 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: Cypress Tx. Posts: 19,039	Re: Stadium Poll Originally Posted by exile Like this? "Kinda-sorta" (The coonass is coming out in me now), but no, that has a pinwheel-ish design... If you look closely that cad drawing or model has a suspended center and no place for the panels to go if they did separate and rotate away. Now, look at the angles and shape, where do you think what would have finally rested after Katrina? Rugby Saint II likes this.

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