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To say the NFL news these days is slow is an understatement. So I read an article or two about a possible new stadium in Nola. I love the Superdome but don't go to the stadiums in Houston and Dallas. You will never look at the Superdome the same again. :(

So let's make a poll!

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No.
The draw to New Orleans will always be the town, not the stadium. Cities keep building these ultra-modern stadiums with tons of amenities just so they can compete.
Complete waste of money.

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I agree with Scott. The Superdome isn't just a football stadium, it's used for Car shows, gun shows, boat shows, home shows,etc. etc...

Now, while this does mean that even if there was a new stadium, the dome could still be used, the cost of supporting two such stadiums would be too much. Not to mention, there are many other things the state could spend that money on.

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Where would the new stadium be constructed? Remember, one of the draws to New Orleans hosting the Super Bowl is that everything, hotels, entertainment, restaurants, etc., are within walking distance of the Dome. A new stadium would have to be constructed in a similar location to make it appealing to the fans.

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St. Louis needs a new stadium...that thing is HORRIBLE. I was amazed at how sad it was when I went to see the Saints game this past year. TVs are tiny. The Titan's stadium is decent, but the Superdome is still one of the best around.

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Our Superdome is iconic and just got a multi million dollar face lift. Not only that we finished second in our bid to host another Superbowl. The NFL apparently doesn't think we need a new stadium.

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True, just need to learn how to keep the lights on!

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Say what you want but even with the recent renovations theDome is light years behind other stadiums in the NFL. Instead of using band aids here and seats there I think we need to spend some real money. Gut the dome and start from scratch on the interior. Add a retractable roof and more seats and sky boxes. Yes the draw is the city itself but a state of the art facility would be a draw and get us more future SB bids. I feel like a state of the art dome paired with the city itself would put us in the running for the Super Bowl just about every year which would offset some of the costs over time. Leave the exterior alone except for the roof.

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Great ideas. But we have to do something for parking which is a pain in the Falcon (a**). And doesn't the picture look nice with it along the waterway? Is there a block of buildings somewhere close to the riverfront that we can destroy?

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it is time the old girl has done a great job but it is time to move on

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Ok, where's the dislike button around here :P

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Just remember that the past few, and new, Superbowl awards have been to new stadiums. Second place is the same as last place. ;)

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I always heard what an amazing experience it was to visit lambeau, and how historic it was. I thought it was a dump compared to the Superdome. It doesn't even have individual seats, just benches without a backrest. There's nothing to see outside the stadium either. I think I remember a burger king? Plus, it was cold as heck and I only counted two good looking ladies the whole time I was there.

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Rebuild it forever

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You should see how Jerry Jones operates his play pen up this way? He pimps that stadium out first chance he gets. Miley Cyrus concerts, soccer fest and even top tier boxing events. It's damn near a strip mall.

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Unlike all the other domes that came after ours, the SuperDome was built to last. I've seen 25 of the other NFL stadiums and most suffer from either bad location or were built cheaply. Seems like every 15 years a team wants a new stadium. Do it right the 1st time and it should last a minimum of 35 years. I fully expect our Saints to be playing in the SD for at least 10 more years.

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I agree. I've been to both St. Louis and MN many times. Those domes weren't at all comparable to the Superdome.

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New stadiums are souless bowls. I say this as a soccer fan who has seen the atmosphere at new stadiums become more and more corporate with the atmosphere dying at grounds. The Dome is home and should be kept that way.

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No way. The Dome is an icon, like the river, and bourbon street, and etc and etc. Why a new stadium? So Roger will bring the Superbowl back?

Meh...

Let Mine-hahah have it. The NFL will keep coming back, because it's the best place for the game. The Dome is more than functional. What a colossal waste of money building a new stadium would be.

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No way. The Dome is an icon, like the river, and bourbon street, and etc and etc. Why a new stadium? So Roger will bring the Superbowl back?

Meh...

Let Mine-hahah have it. The NFL will keep coming back, because it's the best place for the game. The Dome is more than functional. What a colossal waste of money building a new stadium would be.

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Agreed and the new wider concourses are great. I would like to see something done about the Saints HOF and the team store but all in all the Dome is better than ever. I have only been to two other NFL venues, Soldier Field (which looks like a retarded space ship landed in the Pantheon) and the Land hark stadium (or what ever the hell Miami call that dump nowadays). None of those stadium could hold the Dome's jockstrap.
But that artists rendering is great and that will always wooo people.

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I voted no not yet but its getting close to time to start thinking about it though maybe another 5-10 years and when that time comes I think we need a retractable dome IMHO that would be nice I think we should take advantage of this Louisiana heat and humidity .

We need to start planning for it cause it will happen eventually. I think a ticket price bump with the stipulation that it goes for strictly stadium rebuild is justifiable . I do not like the idea that a straight up majority tax payer funded stadium that is something that I don't like. I hate it when the owners/nfl holds a state hostage for building a stadium or they threaten to move the team elsewhere.

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The Dome should be fine for at least another 30 years, then with another renovation good for 30 after that. I never really got the idea of tearing down or abandoning perfectly good stadiums. But, if the Saints ever decide they NEED a new crib, then let the Benson family completely fund it.

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This is a good post and I like the discussion, even though I don't wholly agree with you Dude -- I think the Dome still rocks and has some life in her yet.

But I just wanted to point out to the group, in this discussion, I am pretty sure that it's been talked about before; but from what I've heard, I believe it's impossible to renovate the current Dome with a retractable roof, because of the way it's designed, and the weight, the shape and load bearing of the sides or walls....it couldn't be done with the structure that's there....I think I heard this years ago from one of the old architects at Curtis & Davis. From what I understand, it would have to basically be a whole new structure (whole new sides and walls) on the same site, if you wanted to do a retractable roof. It's an engineering thing.

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What would be pretty cool is if they would build a new dome on the same spot with al the modern hoopla and a retractable roof that still looks like the old dome.

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Domes do not have retractable roofs, those are stadiums, a dome doesn't leave you with a place for the roof to retract to, unless it functions like a camera shutter and that would be expensive as hell, along with being an architectural feat to make it withstand hurricanes. To put what ever it would be anywhere but where the Dome is now doesn't make any sense, but to tear down and rebuild means the Saints would have to play somewhere else for a few seasons.

Jerry World took about 4 years from ground breaking to opening and i have yet to see Louisiana do anything on time, under budget..

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Like this?

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"Kinda-sorta" (The coonass is coming out in me now), but no, that has a pinwheel-ish design...

If you look closely that cad drawing or model has a suspended center and no place for the panels to go if they did separate and rotate away.

Now, look at the angles and shape, where do you think what would have finally rested after Katrina? ;)

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New Orleans learned a valuable lesson in defeat on Tuesday. It's not about the bid -- at least not when there's a new stadium in the mix.

By all accounts, Minneapolis' bid fell well short in almost every way from the ones presented by New Orleans and Indianapolis. It wasn't as financially rewarding or creatively ambitious. And it mattered not.

Few can play Monday morning quarterback better than colleague Peter King of Sports Illustrated. He made an excellent point this week about the NFL's decision. Why couldn't the NFL have just awarded the 2018 Super Bowl to New Orleans and the 2019 game to Minneapolis.

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Well said my friend.:bng:

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True, but we would basically build a new stadium to land 1 superbowl. I'd personally rather keep the dome.

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That's why I say gut it from the inside. It very much is an icon and a part of New Orleans that defines our skyline. I would not touch the exterior except for putting in a retractable roof which would be almost unnoticeable with the technology they have now days.
The inside is what needs to be updated. No more touchups but a major overhaul. Private bathrooms with TVs, REAL restaurants overhanging the edge of the field with big windows, rooms for conventions and corporate apartments, which bring in big money AND can help lure big business back to New Orleans.
I have seen these apartments in NASCAR stadiums and they generate a lot of revenue and are very impressive for out of town guests. They can also be used during Super Bowls to house the big wigs at ESPN, NFL owners, Goodell, etch.

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"After Tuesday's announcement, Minnesota bid committee co-chair Marilyn Carlson Nelson said it would have been "very discouraging" for other cities if New Orleans won again to maintain its perfect batting average."

Tighten up Marilyn, is that why your Vikings suck ballz? They are discouraged that other teams are winning more?:bng::bng:

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It seems like Indianapolis is almost always in the running? I have never been there so I cannot say from experience but from what I hear its a pretty bland city.

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LOL!

If only to cheer up Danno a little.

(And Ill take death.. I mean Cake... Oops)

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The Dome is one of th very few things we got right. It does define N.O skyline. You are so right.
To build another SuperduperDome..where? Metairie away from the tourist attractions.
Over the Lake? Same thing.
Even where Benson proposed by the Claiborne/Municpal Audtiorm way. That is the edge of teh Quraters, ghetto and dangerous.
The Dome is on the business side of Downtown and the heart of teh toruist things.

The Dome will have to continue to be done some kind of way to update the inside. Many here have made good point about the interior.
Lighter, brighter, retaurants inside...etc.

I have not been to N.O. in a long time. What happend to the Hyatt and N.O. Centre?
I remember going to games at night back then when it was all up and running and people used the N.O. from parking, shopping, etc. before the game. It was an extension of the Dome in a way. I remember my parent's club had dinner at the Hyatt before the game as did many people.

The retractable roof idea is the new thing for stadiums. I get that. The weather in N.O. is hot as hell in the day and muggy hot at night. Only difference at night is there is no sun.
I remember when in the 1980's at a night game, the air was out in the Dome. UGH,it was awful. With air circuits on full blast and a retractable roof, it would still be miserable.

Also, it rains ...often...night, day, anytime.

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No we dont need another stadium. Look up at the upgrades we have put into the place just since '10. If we drop some more into it (which I am all in favor of upgrading) right now or the next 5 yrs ,we got to be close to that billion dollar fig which these other New so called state of the art stadiums are at now. change the top/ expand it/ big tv's whatever, dont tell me it cant be done. Cause it can
I dont want to drive to the snore shore, or Kenner for gods sake to see the game.

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Not a Superdome issue. Watch your tongue.

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Jerry's palace is a good example of a waste of money. They have GO-GO Girls in cages. What's that about?