Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable?

halloween 65 · 06-09-2014, 07:04 AM

Alot of teams have set their D up to shut down our pass happy O.We are way to predictable in our O when we run certain packages. With Sproles not being here it should tone down the screen some. I still would let Graham walk for a more traditional TE and run the ball more. I feel we should be more of a play-action O over a pass happy O, 7 days a week 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If there is a year for a UDFA to step up I feel O-lineman would be the spot.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-09-2014, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

Alot of teams have set their D up to shut down our pass happy O.We are way to predictable in our O when we run certain packages. With Sproles not being here it should tone down the screen some. I still would let Graham walk for a more traditional TE and run the ball more. I feel we should be more of a play-action O over a pass happy O, 7 days a week 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If there is a year for a UDFA to step up I feel O-lineman would be the spot.

I'm trying to find something in here that makes sense.

1. Every defense sets up the D to stop a pass happy offense. With Brees, pressure up the middle disrupts the play most every time. With DLP gone and hopefully a healthy Evans, this is going to be curtailed a bit.

2. Sproles really wasn't the screen guy. PT is really the screen guy. Defenses simply became more disciplined to the screen. LB stayed home instead of rushing.

3. Jimmy Graham isn't going anywhere. And honestly where is the value of letting a double digit TD guy walk?

4. Pass happy offense works the vast majority of the time. Last year Brees averaged nearly 8 yards per attempt. Not completions, attempts. Yards per completion posted at 11.5 yards. So on average the Saints got a first down each and every time someone caught the ball.

5. You may not realize it, but the Saints oLine has guys that have made the Pro Bowl in virtually every position and some point in their recent career. And the one who hasn't (Armstead) is poised for a breakout year. So exactly where is a UDFA going to crack the lineup?

I always see discussions as if the offense is seriously broken and needs to be overhauled. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

The only thing I'd really question is what should the Saints do in the 4 minute drill, when you absolutely have to keep possession of the ball. That's where pass happy falls down and inconsistent running gets you in trouble.

But I don't see much sense in overhauling the entire offense just for that situation. Simply come up with a package for consistent possession and clutch yards and pull it out when necessary.

SFIAH

halloween 65 · 06-09-2014, 04:01 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I'm trying to find something in here that makes sense.

1. Every defense sets up the D to stop a pass happy offense. With Brees, pressure up the middle disrupts the play most every time. With DLP gone and hopefully a healthy Evans, this is going to be curtailed a bit.

2. Sproles really wasn't the screen guy. PT is really the screen guy. Defenses simply became more disciplined to the screen. LB stayed home instead of rushing.

3. Jimmy Graham isn't going anywhere. And honestly where is the value of letting a double digit TD guy walk?

4. Pass happy offense works the vast majority of the time. Last year Brees averaged nearly 8 yards per attempt. Not completions, attempts. Yards per completion posted at 11.5 yards. So on average the Saints got a first down each and every time someone caught the ball.

5. You may not realize it, but the Saints oLine has guys that have made the Pro Bowl in virtually every position and some point is their recent career. And the one who hasn't (Armstead) is poised for a breakout year. So exactly where is a UDFA going to crack the lineup?

I always see discussions as if the offense is seriously broken and needs to be overhauled. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me.

The only thing I'd really question is what should the Saints do in the 4 minute drill, when you absolutely have to keep possession of the ball. That's where pass happy falls down and inconsistent running gets you in trouble.

But I don't see much sense in overhauling the entire offense just for that situation. Simply come up with a package for consistent possession and clutch yards and pull it out when necessary.

SFIAH

You fail to mention all the hurries ,sacks, happy feet, and running for his life Brees had to do. A stud C would ease a lot of that, not to mention shoring up the run game and pass protection, not getting our trigger man killed is the key. As far as Graham he don't block, gets shut down by physical DB's, a traditional TE does it all. If they let him go I wouldn't lose any sleep. Our screen was blown up time after time, time for a change, whether it was Sproles or PT. And when have we pulled out clutch yds. against Seattle, they own us as it is now, so some change is good, losing Graham wouldn't hurt and a stud C would help. Our run game needs to set the game and the pass will be there!!

exile · 06-09-2014, 04:03 PM

They are way too predictable. 40 points per game over and over and over.

06-09-2014, 07:04 AM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Alot of teams have set their D up to shut down our pass happy O.We are way to predictable in our O when we run certain packages. With Sproles not being here it should tone down the screen some. I still would let Graham walk for a more traditional TE and run the ball more. I feel we should be more of a play-action O over a pass happy O, 7 days a week 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If there is a year for a UDFA to step up I feel O-lineman would be the spot. Seer1 likes this.

06-09-2014, 01:55 PM	#2
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,785	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by halloween 65 Alot of teams have set their D up to shut down our pass happy O.We are way to predictable in our O when we run certain packages. With Sproles not being here it should tone down the screen some. I still would let Graham walk for a more traditional TE and run the ball more. I feel we should be more of a play-action O over a pass happy O, 7 days a week 24 hours a day 365 days a year. If there is a year for a UDFA to step up I feel O-lineman would be the spot. I'm trying to find something in here that makes sense. 1. Every defense sets up the D to stop a pass happy offense. With Brees, pressure up the middle disrupts the play most every time. With DLP gone and hopefully a healthy Evans, this is going to be curtailed a bit. 2. Sproles really wasn't the screen guy. PT is really the screen guy. Defenses simply became more disciplined to the screen. LB stayed home instead of rushing. 3. Jimmy Graham isn't going anywhere. And honestly where is the value of letting a double digit TD guy walk? 4. Pass happy offense works the vast majority of the time. Last year Brees averaged nearly 8 yards per attempt. Not completions, attempts. Yards per completion posted at 11.5 yards. So on average the Saints got a first down each and every time someone caught the ball. 5. You may not realize it, but the Saints oLine has guys that have made the Pro Bowl in virtually every position and some point in their recent career. And the one who hasn't (Armstead) is poised for a breakout year. So exactly where is a UDFA going to crack the lineup? I always see discussions as if the offense is seriously broken and needs to be overhauled. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The only thing I'd really question is what should the Saints do in the 4 minute drill, when you absolutely have to keep possession of the ball. That's where pass happy falls down and inconsistent running gets you in trouble. But I don't see much sense in overhauling the entire offense just for that situation. Simply come up with a package for consistent possession and clutch yards and pull it out when necessary. SFIAH hagan714 likes this.
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06-09-2014, 04:01 PM	#3
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I'm trying to find something in here that makes sense. 1. Every defense sets up the D to stop a pass happy offense. With Brees, pressure up the middle disrupts the play most every time. With DLP gone and hopefully a healthy Evans, this is going to be curtailed a bit. 2. Sproles really wasn't the screen guy. PT is really the screen guy. Defenses simply became more disciplined to the screen. LB stayed home instead of rushing. 3. Jimmy Graham isn't going anywhere. And honestly where is the value of letting a double digit TD guy walk? 4. Pass happy offense works the vast majority of the time. Last year Brees averaged nearly 8 yards per attempt. Not completions, attempts. Yards per completion posted at 11.5 yards. So on average the Saints got a first down each and every time someone caught the ball. 5. You may not realize it, but the Saints oLine has guys that have made the Pro Bowl in virtually every position and some point is their recent career. And the one who hasn't (Armstead) is poised for a breakout year. So exactly where is a UDFA going to crack the lineup? I always see discussions as if the offense is seriously broken and needs to be overhauled. Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. The only thing I'd really question is what should the Saints do in the 4 minute drill, when you absolutely have to keep possession of the ball. That's where pass happy falls down and inconsistent running gets you in trouble. But I don't see much sense in overhauling the entire offense just for that situation. Simply come up with a package for consistent possession and clutch yards and pull it out when necessary. SFIAH You fail to mention all the hurries ,sacks, happy feet, and running for his life Brees had to do. A stud C would ease a lot of that, not to mention shoring up the run game and pass protection, not getting our trigger man killed is the key. As far as Graham he don't block, gets shut down by physical DB's, a traditional TE does it all. If they let him go I wouldn't lose any sleep. Our screen was blown up time after time, time for a change, whether it was Sproles or PT. And when have we pulled out clutch yds. against Seattle, they own us as it is now, so some change is good, losing Graham wouldn't hurt and a stud C would help. Our run game needs to set the game and the pass will be there!! hagan714 likes this.

06-09-2014, 04:03 PM	#4
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