Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable?

Seer1 · 06-08-2014, 01:38 PM

Yes.

Is the Saints Offense Becoming Too Predictable? - Canal Street Chronicles

This is why Sproles and even Graham being gone wouldn't break my heart. It's also why I was so gung ho about us gathering up good offensive linemen in the draft.

exile · 06-08-2014, 01:59 PM

If it is then so are all the other offenses in the league. Like the Broncos. But I don't buy it.

WhoDat!656 · 06-08-2014, 02:33 PM

If Graham had been a factor and fought for some of the passes...

hagan714 · 06-08-2014, 05:43 PM

Loring yea Loring, Armstead and Cook added into the mix should let SP play around with his play calling more.

SaintFanInATLHELL · 06-08-2014, 06:23 PM

Originally Posted by Seer1

Yes.

Is the Saints Offense Becoming Too Predictable? - Canal Street Chronicles

This is why Sproles and even Graham being gone wouldn't break my heart. It's also why I was so gung ho about us gathering up good offensive linemen in the draft.

I have two questions both related to Graham.

1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham?

2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes:

1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal.

2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag.

3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone.

Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone?

While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September.

A little assistance please?

SFIAH

cobbraking · 06-08-2014, 06:51 PM

Hell Yea!!! Way to predictable I truly believe we should do a whole lot of running the ball. Because when you shut down Jimmy Graham its over. When they take out Pierre Thomas and put another running back in,you know it's gonna be a run. I think they should make Stills a deep threat like what they did with Devery Henderson, Brandon Cooks should be the new slot receiver like what we did with Lance Moore either across the middle or a pitch out play. We need to get more creative with our packages with Mark Ingram & Kirly Robinson such as pass plays and more screens GET THEM MORE INVOLVED !!

WhoDat!656 · 06-08-2014, 07:19 PM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I have two questions both related to Graham.

1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham?

2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes:

1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal.

2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag.

3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone.

Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone?

While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September.

A little assistance please?

SFIAH

The article wasn't specifically targeting Graham; how often do TEs run screen plays?

The fan that posted the article mentioned he wouldn't care if the Saints traded Graham.

Seer1 · 06-08-2014, 07:32 PM

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656

The article wasn't specifically targeting Graham; how often do TEs run screen plays?

The fan that posted the article mentioned he wouldn't care if the Saints traded Graham.

Exactly! If we went short looking for yardage, it was more likely than not a screen play. And more likely than not it was heading in Sproles' direction. If we were going longer and it was a yardage absolutely needed play, more likely than not it was headed Jimmy's way. Graham'll do better with more play makers out on the field that the QB trusts. He was kind of on his own by the end of last season and when we faced a team that had his number, well we all saw what happened. Drew'll do better without a bunch of angry guys not wearing the Black and Gold in his face. We need some different plays and and some other play makers out there.

SmashMouth · 06-09-2014, 12:06 AM

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I have two questions both related to Graham.

1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham?

2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes:

1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal.

2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag.

3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone.

Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone?

While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September.

A little assistance please?

SFIAH

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QBREES9 · 06-09-2014, 12:17 AM

A Graham deal will get done.

06-08-2014, 01:38 PM	#1
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Yes. Is the Saints Offense Becoming Too Predictable? - Canal Street Chronicles This is why Sproles and even Graham being gone wouldn't break my heart. It's also why I was so gung ho about us gathering up good offensive linemen in the draft.

06-08-2014, 01:59 PM	#2
exile Cake or Death? Join Date: Sep 2009 Posts: 3,608	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? If it is then so are all the other offenses in the league. Like the Broncos. But I don't buy it.
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06-08-2014, 05:43 PM	#4
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Loring yea Loring, Armstead and Cook added into the mix should let SP play around with his play calling more.

06-08-2014, 06:23 PM	#5
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,647	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by Seer1 Yes. Is the Saints Offense Becoming Too Predictable? - Canal Street Chronicles This is why Sproles and even Graham being gone wouldn't break my heart. It's also why I was so gung ho about us gathering up good offensive linemen in the draft. I have two questions both related to Graham. 1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham? 2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes: 1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal. 2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag. 3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone. Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone? While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September. A little assistance please? SFIAH
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06-08-2014, 06:51 PM	#6
cobbraking Rookie Join Date: Dec 2013 Posts: 12	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Hell Yea!!! Way to predictable I truly believe we should do a whole lot of running the ball. Because when you shut down Jimmy Graham its over. When they take out Pierre Thomas and put another running back in,you know it's gonna be a run. I think they should make Stills a deep threat like what they did with Devery Henderson, Brandon Cooks should be the new slot receiver like what we did with Lance Moore either across the middle or a pitch out play. We need to get more creative with our packages with Mark Ingram & Kirly Robinson such as pass plays and more screens GET THEM MORE INVOLVED !! Papa Voodoo and the-commish like this.
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06-08-2014, 07:19 PM	#7
WhoDat!656 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Shreveport,Louisiana Posts: 16,001	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I have two questions both related to Graham. 1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham? 2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes: 1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal. 2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag. 3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone. Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone? While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September. A little assistance please? SFIAH The article wasn't specifically targeting Graham; how often do TEs run screen plays? The fan that posted the article mentioned he wouldn't care if the Saints traded Graham.

06-08-2014, 07:32 PM	#8
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 The article wasn't specifically targeting Graham; how often do TEs run screen plays? The fan that posted the article mentioned he wouldn't care if the Saints traded Graham. Exactly! If we went short looking for yardage, it was more likely than not a screen play. And more likely than not it was heading in Sproles' direction. If we were going longer and it was a yardage absolutely needed play, more likely than not it was headed Jimmy's way. Graham'll do better with more play makers out on the field that the QB trusts. He was kind of on his own by the end of last season and when we faced a team that had his number, well we all saw what happened. Drew'll do better without a bunch of angry guys not wearing the Black and Gold in his face. We need some different plays and and some other play makers out there.
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06-09-2014, 12:06 AM	#9
SmashMouth I donated, did you? Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Mandeville, LA Posts: 37,008 Blog Entries: 29	Re: Is The Saints Offense Too Predictable? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I have two questions both related to Graham. 1. The piece was about the 8 screen plays that the Saints ran against the Seahawks last season. What exactly does that have to do with Graham? 2. Exactly how is Graham going to be "gone"? Truly if the Saints wanted him gone, they certainly could have traded him while he was under contract or not put the franchise tag on him. In the current situation there's only three possible outcomes: 1. The Saints and JG work out a long term deal. 2. JG signs the franchise tender and plays one year under the tag. 3. JG holds out the entire season and doesn't play for anyone. Since #3 only has like a 0.0000001% chance of happening, exactly how is he going to be gone? While I agree that improving the line and adding a playmaker will help the offense, I don't understand exactly how Graham was a specific part of the problem outlined in the piece or how he's not going to line up for the Saints come September. A little assistance please? SFIAH This is the kind of dribble you get from this dubious source. Please refrain from posting links from this source in the future. Much appreciated.

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