Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason

WhoDat!656 · 06-09-2014, 08:46 AM

In the Saints’ first organized team activity open to reporters this summer, rookie cornerback Stanley Jean-Batiste slapped the ball out of receiver Andy Tanner’s hands after he made a catch.

A few minutes later, safety Rafael Bush stripped Marques Colston as he tried to run with a reception.

Read more: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason | Saints | The Advocate — Baton Rouge, LA

Danno · 06-09-2014, 10:58 AM

Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles.

dizzle88 · 06-09-2014, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles.

Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier

|Mitch| · 06-09-2014, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier

That's not turnover focused, just absolutely horrid fundamental tackle skills

And guys like Bailey or Byrd turnovers just come naturally, even Lewis did "okay" in that area last year...

halloween 65 · 06-09-2014, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by dizzle88

Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier

That is true!!

jeanpierre · 06-10-2014, 08:46 AM

Originally Posted by Danno

Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles.

Ah the famous "Bend But Don't Break Defense"...

AllSaints · 06-09-2014, 04:41 PM

I'm praying we can stay healthy ! This Defense is going to be a turnover machine !

rezburna · 06-09-2014, 04:50 PM

Turnovers needs to be the focus of the offense.

hagan714 · 06-10-2014, 05:10 AM

For whatever reason, Ryan’s defenses rarely have turned in big turnover numbers. In his 10 years as a coordinator, the high mark for takeaways was 28 by Cleveland in 2010, which placed the Browns in a tie for 13th in the NFL. Half of his defenses failed to produce 20 takeaways: Oakland in 2004 and 2005, Cleveland in 2009, Dallas in 2012 and New Orleans last season all finished among the league’s bottom six in the category.

The 2011 Cowboys, who forced 25 turnovers, are one of only two Ryan defenses to rank in the top half of the NFL in takeaways — and then just barely at No. 16.

my number 2 concern with roy boy when we hired him.

Well i am holding my breath and hoping that Vaccarro can get some INTs. I hate to end up with yet another set of stone hands at SS.

dizzle88 · 06-10-2014, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

For whatever reason, Ryan’s defenses rarely have turned in big turnover numbers. In his 10 years as a coordinator, the high mark for takeaways was 28 by Cleveland in 2010, which placed the Browns in a tie for 13th in the NFL. Half of his defenses failed to produce 20 takeaways: Oakland in 2004 and 2005, Cleveland in 2009, Dallas in 2012 and New Orleans last season all finished among the league’s bottom six in the category.

The 2011 Cowboys, who forced 25 turnovers, are one of only two Ryan defenses to rank in the top half of the NFL in takeaways — and then just barely at No. 16.

my number 2 concern with roy boy when we hired him.

Well i am holding my breath and hoping that Vaccarro can get some INTs. I hate to end up with yet another set of stone hands at SS.

Kinda makes you think, is rob getting the players to play more fundamentally sound football rather than taking a risk and it having the chance to bite you on the behind

We all noticed how much better our players tackled last season rather than constantly going for the strip, if all of robs defenses have been that way it kind of makes you think

I'd like more turnovers, but not at the expense of how dominant our D was last year, we were top 5 in the league for forcing 3 and outs - plus we did drop a hell of a lot of INT's last season

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Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,756	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles. Seer1, halloween 65 and brees84 like this.

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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Originally Posted by Danno Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles. Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier halloween 65 likes this.

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\|Mitch\| 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Alexandria, La Posts: 11,303	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier That's not turnover focused, just absolutely horrid fundamental tackle skills And guys like Bailey or Byrd turnovers just come naturally, even Lewis did "okay" in that area last year...
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halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Originally Posted by dizzle88 Yeah I hope they don't all start using Malcolm Jenkins style of tackling, torpedo head first into absolutely nothing attempting to seperate the ball from the carrier That is true!!

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jeanpierre Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Thibodaux Posts: 43,543 Blog Entries: 39	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Originally Posted by Danno Sounds great, but I'm sure I'm not the only one concerned that an emphasis on takeaways may come at the cost of more missed tackles. Ah the famous "Bend But Don't Break Defense"...

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hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason For whatever reason, Ryan’s defenses rarely have turned in big turnover numbers. In his 10 years as a coordinator, the high mark for takeaways was 28 by Cleveland in 2010, which placed the Browns in a tie for 13th in the NFL. Half of his defenses failed to produce 20 takeaways: Oakland in 2004 and 2005, Cleveland in 2009, Dallas in 2012 and New Orleans last season all finished among the league’s bottom six in the category. The 2011 Cowboys, who forced 25 turnovers, are one of only two Ryan defenses to rank in the top half of the NFL in takeaways — and then just barely at No. 16. my number 2 concern with roy boy when we hired him. Well i am holding my breath and hoping that Vaccarro can get some INTs. I hate to end up with yet another set of stone hands at SS.
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dizzle88 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 11,532	Re: Turnovers are the focus for the Saints defense this offseason Originally Posted by hagan714 For whatever reason, Ryan’s defenses rarely have turned in big turnover numbers. In his 10 years as a coordinator, the high mark for takeaways was 28 by Cleveland in 2010, which placed the Browns in a tie for 13th in the NFL. Half of his defenses failed to produce 20 takeaways: Oakland in 2004 and 2005, Cleveland in 2009, Dallas in 2012 and New Orleans last season all finished among the league’s bottom six in the category. The 2011 Cowboys, who forced 25 turnovers, are one of only two Ryan defenses to rank in the top half of the NFL in takeaways — and then just barely at No. 16. my number 2 concern with roy boy when we hired him. Well i am holding my breath and hoping that Vaccarro can get some INTs. I hate to end up with yet another set of stone hands at SS. Kinda makes you think, is rob getting the players to play more fundamentally sound football rather than taking a risk and it having the chance to bite you on the behind We all noticed how much better our players tackled last season rather than constantly going for the strip, if all of robs defenses have been that way it kind of makes you think I'd like more turnovers, but not at the expense of how dominant our D was last year, we were top 5 in the league for forcing 3 and outs - plus we did drop a hell of a lot of INT's last season hagan714 and brees84 like this.
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