Loomis's job safe

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-29-2004, 02:19 PM

"(Saints owner) Tom Benson is going over every big deal that his team made the past few years, you know, trades, draft picks and (stuff) to figure out who was responsible. He's determined to attach accountability to some of the stuff that went on. He might be more steamed than ever about the sorry state of his team. Word is, though, that (general manager) Mickey Loomis is safe, no matter what else happens with (coach Jim) Haslett."

Not what I wanted to hear. Need new GM and coaching staff here.

WhoDat · 11-29-2004, 03:37 PM

Hopefully Mickey goes back to being VP of Business Operations and deals with contract negotiations... Someone else needs to be in there as VP of Football Operations, then again, I\'m not shocked to see Loomis staying. He and Benson are tight, I doubt he\'ll go anywhere. What will be interesting to see is whether or not Venturi finally get canned.

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-29-2004, 04:32 PM

I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator. Maybe he gets reassinged in the organization, but no way does he stay at his current position.

shadowdrinker_x · 11-29-2004, 05:53 PM

Maybe while Benson is at it..he can get something done on HIS side of the deal..and work with the state to get this team the facilities it needs..and getiing all the talk of moving silenced..that in itself would help not only the players, but the fans as well

shadowdrinker_x · 11-29-2004, 05:54 PM

I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator. Maybe he gets reassinged in the organization, but no way does he stay at his current position.

Is he considering keeping Venturi?

whodatsaintsfan26 · 11-29-2004, 06:48 PM

Dont know. With the time he has been with the organization, I wouldnt be surprised to see him moved to some other capacity in the organization. He is a good coach, just not a good D-coordinator.

[Edited on 30/11/2004 by whodatsaintsfan26]

WhoDat · 11-30-2004, 12:51 PM

I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator.

Are we talking about Loomis or Venturi? Loomis should go back to Business Operations. If the Forbes numbers are right, the Saints went from being the 8th MOST profitable (operating income) organization in the league in 2002 to being 5th to LAST in 2004. What changed? Loomis stopped managing the organization and began \"managing\" (read working on contracts for) the football players. During that time the Saints have had one of the best cap positions in the league. Loomis is very good with numbers. He should stay, but he should be looking at financial spreadsheets, not player scouting reports.

On Venturi - he\'s not a good coach. He\'s a terrible coach. He\'s never been succcessful in any of the two top spots nor have his players when he was a position coach. Trace the biggest defensive weaknesses of this team back to the 80s and I bet you\'ll find Venturi at every spot.

11-29-2004, 02:19 PM	#1
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Loomis's job safe "(Saints owner) Tom Benson is going over every big deal that his team made the past few years, you know, trades, draft picks and (stuff) to figure out who was responsible. He's determined to attach accountability to some of the stuff that went on. He might be more steamed than ever about the sorry state of his team. Word is, though, that (general manager) Mickey Loomis is safe, no matter what else happens with (coach Jim) Haslett." Not what I wanted to hear. Need new GM and coaching staff here.

11-29-2004, 03:37 PM	#2
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Loomis's job safe Hopefully Mickey goes back to being VP of Business Operations and deals with contract negotiations... Someone else needs to be in there as VP of Football Operations, then again, I\'m not shocked to see Loomis staying. He and Benson are tight, I doubt he\'ll go anywhere. What will be interesting to see is whether or not Venturi finally get canned.
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11-29-2004, 04:32 PM	#3
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Loomis's job safe I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator. Maybe he gets reassinged in the organization, but no way does he stay at his current position.

11-29-2004, 05:53 PM	#4
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	Loomis's job safe Maybe while Benson is at it..he can get something done on HIS side of the deal..and work with the state to get this team the facilities it needs..and getiing all the talk of moving silenced..that in itself would help not only the players, but the fans as well

11-29-2004, 05:54 PM	#5
shadowdrinker_x Banned Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Texas Posts: 218	Loomis's job safe I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator. Maybe he gets reassinged in the organization, but no way does he stay at his current position. Is he considering keeping Venturi?

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11-29-2004, 06:48 PM	#6
whodatsaintsfan26 500th Post Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Dallas Texas Posts: 577	Loomis's job safe Dont know. With the time he has been with the organization, I wouldnt be surprised to see him moved to some other capacity in the organization. He is a good coach, just not a good D-coordinator. [Edited on 30/11/2004 by whodatsaintsfan26]

11-30-2004, 12:51 PM	#7
WhoDat 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,631	Loomis's job safe I just cant see how he keeps his job as d-coordinator. Are we talking about Loomis or Venturi? Loomis should go back to Business Operations. If the Forbes numbers are right, the Saints went from being the 8th MOST profitable (operating income) organization in the league in 2002 to being 5th to LAST in 2004. What changed? Loomis stopped managing the organization and began \"managing\" (read working on contracts for) the football players. During that time the Saints have had one of the best cap positions in the league. Loomis is very good with numbers. He should stay, but he should be looking at financial spreadsheets, not player scouting reports. On Venturi - he\'s not a good coach. He\'s a terrible coach. He\'s never been succcessful in any of the two top spots nor have his players when he was a position coach. Trace the biggest defensive weaknesses of this team back to the 80s and I bet you\'ll find Venturi at every spot.
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