Saints' Champ Bailey: Redskins name like N-word

rezburna · 06-15-2014, 03:09 AM

Originally Posted by hagan714

yeah i have to say my Irish roots are as mixed as any even by the late 1600's. Everyone conquered and enslaved us. My forefathers fell of the boat as "indentured servants" to an English tobacco baron in the Carolinas at the turn of the century. They might be one of the first run away slaves in America. So when it comes to being a true American mutt i have to say we are as pure as a mutt can ever be. I have almost every European blood line, more than one of the Indian nations and also a couple of African nations flowing through my veins. When MLK talked about seeing the world as grey I think i can understanding what he was getting at.

"indentured servants" i always loved that PC term for slavery. An Entire nation murdered and owned by various European countries for centuries. leave it to the English to come up with such a clean sounding word.

So Slavery is not owned by any one race. besides why do African Americans with decent to this time period allow an African fresh of the boat to use the "N" word? history in Africa was one were they practiced slavery also for 1000s of year and made a some money selling slaves long before the Europeans started buying them. Just as social acceptable there it was around the world at that time. Besides that Africans forefather might be from the tribe that originally put your tribe into slavery to begin with.

Historically the argument just does not hold water for a person like me. Every nationality has been enslaved some where in history.

I say get off your soap box and stop pointing your finger at me. go clean up your own house first then talk to me. by they way i know more white ******s than black ******s. Hell i know ******s of all kinda of colors. I have moved beyond race and I am no longer a racist. equality for all. rich or poor makes no difference. If you want people stop using the word then everyone must stop. other wise i view the argument as self serving and not valid. it is racist.

i wonder if the "N" word will post

my history thesis was on this very topic. got a c then debated the issue for hours over the course of a month or so with my prof before she gave me a better grade. no she was not white, actually we are more pink than white, she was of African decent. good friends still today. she is the only person that can call me cracker.

nope ******s

PS we are Americans. till we accept it and stop labeling our selves we will get no where. Go back to your home land they will tell you. your american. stop all the subdividing already

I don't think anybody tries to own slavery or point to slavery as the problem. People would have been over slavery after that generation died off if we didn't have to have a Civil Rights movement just 50 years ago in order to get equality, or if there still wasn't subtle **** going on to this day. Anybody who still points to slavery is reaching, even if it really wasn't as long ago as people think.

As far as the Africans prospering off slaves, no historical basis behind that. None whatsoever. Europeans would pock a side in the war between two tribes, give them guns and supplies, then when one side one and took prisoners of war they would then trade those prisoners for more guns and supplies. Nothing like the way people try to portray it. The Europeans were raiding African villages and taking slaves for years. Europe started the craze. America followed suit. I hate that scapegoat.

And honestly, blacks are the only ones who don't have any ties to their original ancestry. I don't know what African tribe my people came from. That's lost. To me, Irish, French, English, German, whatever, white is white. Black is black. And Oriental is oriental. I'm creole. I've got French and Indian ancestry. I'm neither. I cant go to France without a passport, and I can't get grant money to build a casino down here on the coast that isn't on water. My homeland is New Orleans, Louisiana. I go back there and they'll tell me I'm black just like my birth certificate says. American sub divides me just fine.

06-15-2014, 03:09 AM	#11
rezburna 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Kenner, LA Posts: 8,185	Re: Saints' Champ Bailey: Redskins name like N-word Originally Posted by hagan714 yeah i have to say my Irish roots are as mixed as any even by the late 1600's. Everyone conquered and enslaved us. My forefathers fell of the boat as "indentured servants" to an English tobacco baron in the Carolinas at the turn of the century. They might be one of the first run away slaves in America. So when it comes to being a true American mutt i have to say we are as pure as a mutt can ever be. I have almost every European blood line, more than one of the Indian nations and also a couple of African nations flowing through my veins. When MLK talked about seeing the world as grey I think i can understanding what he was getting at. "indentured servants" i always loved that PC term for slavery. An Entire nation murdered and owned by various European countries for centuries. leave it to the English to come up with such a clean sounding word. So Slavery is not owned by any one race. besides why do African Americans with decent to this time period allow an African fresh of the boat to use the "N" word? history in Africa was one were they practiced slavery also for 1000s of year and made a some money selling slaves long before the Europeans started buying them. Just as social acceptable there it was around the world at that time. Besides that Africans forefather might be from the tribe that originally put your tribe into slavery to begin with. Historically the argument just does not hold water for a person like me. Every nationality has been enslaved some where in history. I say get off your soap box and stop pointing your finger at me. go clean up your own house first then talk to me. by they way i know more white ****s than black **s. Hell i know **s of all kinda of colors. I have moved beyond race and I am no longer a racist. equality for all. rich or poor makes no difference. If you want people stop using the word then everyone must stop. other wise i view the argument as self serving and not valid. it is racist. i wonder if the "N" word will post my history thesis was on this very topic. got a c then debated the issue for hours over the course of a month or so with my prof before she gave me a better grade. no she was not white, actually we are more pink than white, she was of African decent. good friends still today. she is the only person that can call me cracker. nope **s PS we are Americans. till we accept it and stop labeling our selves we will get no where. Go back to your home land they will tell you. your american. stop all the subdividing already I don't think anybody tries to own slavery or point to slavery as the problem. People would have been over slavery after that generation died off if we didn't have to have a Civil Rights movement just 50 years ago in order to get equality, or if there still wasn't subtle ** going on to this day. Anybody who still points to slavery is reaching, even if it really wasn't as long ago as people think. As far as the Africans prospering off slaves, no historical basis behind that. None whatsoever. Europeans would pock a side in the war between two tribes, give them guns and supplies, then when one side one and took prisoners of war they would then trade those prisoners for more guns and supplies. Nothing like the way people try to portray it. The Europeans were raiding African villages and taking slaves for years. Europe started the craze. America followed suit. I hate that scapegoat. And honestly, blacks are the only ones who don't have any ties to their original ancestry. I don't know what African tribe my people came from. That's lost. To me, Irish, French, English, German, whatever, white is white. Black is black. And Oriental is oriental. I'm creole. I've got French and Indian ancestry. I'm neither. I cant go to France without a passport, and I can't get grant money to build a casino down here on the coast that isn't on water. My homeland is New Orleans, Louisiana. I go back there and they'll tell me I'm black just like my birth certificate says. American sub divides me just fine. hagan714 likes this.
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