But when a player is demanding more than he's worth, its fine with me if he gets hammered for it by the fans.

We fans love the team, and if a player demands more than we fans feel he's worth, then he hurts our team financially.

Hurt my team? Me no likey!

When will we find out if he's classified as a WR or TE? .

When will we find out if he's classified as a WR or TE? I don't think he's greedy. I just want this over because if he's classified as a WR there is no guarantee that we have the cap to sign him. I want Jimmy on the team but this is just annoying.

I guess at least he's not holding out like Vernon Davis with 2 years left on his contract because he wants more money. That would be much more of an annoyance.

And what is he demanding? He has never mentioned anything about the contract. In addition, what we as fans feel a player is worth in not relevant. What is important is what the team feels he is worth. What exactly is the player that has led the NFL in touchdowns over the past two seasons worth?

The cap consequences are trivial based the 2015-16 projected levels. Loomis has also proven to be a wizard at structuring contracts in such a manner to avoid hardships.

So why be angry at Graham, who has personally demanded nothing?

Where are those fans? On this board? I don't think so. Leave it alone. I find this "don't hate JG" thing unnecessary and very annoying.

I read long ago he turned down a 10 million per season offer.

And if he wants 12 million, I think its too much. If the Saints only offer 8, I think thats too little.

No one has the right to tell me how I should feel about the situation.

Its true I wouldn't classify its as greed. I'd classify it as the player is asking for too much and me not wanting to cave in to his demands.

as of 6:30 EST, there is nothing out there. The hearing started yesterday, and will conclude today. I think we'll know tonight

This guy doesn't get it. But he clearly thinks he's above all understanding.

I won't say Graham is downright greedy, but I will say he's selfish. Is there a difference? Not much, but I guess it doesn't sound as harsh.

Here's the point this guy is missing. When the average person asks for a raise it's only a dollar or maybe a few dollars depending on what kind of job you have. So I don't blame Jimmy for wanting more money, and he obviously earned himself a hefty raise from what he WAS making. And he was going to get just that. How many people get a raise worth millions of dollars? But the problem is he doesn't stop there. He wants to almost double what the team is offering.

If I walk up to my boss and say "hey boss, I want you to double my salary, because I think I deserve it more than anyone else here"... Would you simply say that I'm trying to do what's best for me, or would you call me a douche bag? There's a difference between fairness and exorbitance. You might even say Greed.

I'm a capitalist, and I think it's a great system when properly used. But even in capitalism there are limits to what people can do. You have the right to earn and work your way up, but you can't just arbitrarily decide that you suddenly deserve way more than somebody thinks you're worth. You are free to request it, as he has... But it doesn't look good on you when you're asking price is beyond reason.