Graham designated TE by arbitrator

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

We may now just offer him the Gronk deal. We have all the leverage. We could just play him under the franchise tag for 2 more seasons if he refuses to sign for what we're offering.

Lets see what kind of deal he can get as a 30 year old TE that can't block and looks to be losing a step.

I think this ruling brings Sexton closer to our demands now.

How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.

Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play.

Danno · 07-02-2014, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.

Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play.

I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit.

I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might.

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit.

I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might.

Even at 30 I would think he would still be very close to the fastest 6'5" TE in the league ... and consider that he is still learning the position. He will get better every year.

Consider what other players do in their off days. Graham's two loves are flying and community service. You never hear or see anything about him doing anything else. How many young people have the personal dedication to get a private pilots license? I know what it takes. My late father was a flight instructor. You have to go far and above to get one.

I truly hope that once this is all over most people will understand what happened and appreciate what we have as Saints fans in Jimmy Graham.

spkb25 · 07-02-2014, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.

I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by spkb25

I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag

Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal. All this same talk was going around when Brees was tagged. Guess what? Loomis and the Saints came to terms with Brees' agent for a deal, while huge at the time, is nothing compared to what pedestrian QB's are and will be receiving since.

Danno · 07-02-2014, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal.

That was my point exactly.

voodooido · 07-03-2014, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's.

Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play.

Pretty sure he meant in 2 years when he is 30

AliJee · 07-02-2014, 04:50 PM

I see him getting more than gronk ... He will become the highest paid TE.
Burbanks arbitration report was spot on.

AliJee · 07-02-2014, 05:35 PM

I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion.
In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet.
This way nobody feels "screwed over"

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-02-2014, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by AliJee

I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion.

That's the media's job. It's the football equivalent to E! News. Honestly this is one of the reasons the Saints have so little National media coverage. There's no drama to discuss.

In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet.
This way nobody feels "screwed over"

I'm in complete agreement.

SFIAH

07-02-2014, 05:12 PM	#1
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno We may now just offer him the Gronk deal. We have all the leverage. We could just play him under the franchise tag for 2 more seasons if he refuses to sign for what we're offering. Lets see what kind of deal he can get as a 30 year old TE that can't block and looks to be losing a step. I think this ruling brings Sexton closer to our demands now. How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's. Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play. ScottF and AliJee like this.

07-02-2014, 05:44 PM	#2
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's. Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play. I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit. I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might.

07-02-2014, 06:54 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno I'm speculating that when he turns 30, he may show signs of slowing down a bit. I didn't say he's lost a step already, but at age 30 he might. Even at 30 I would think he would still be very close to the fastest 6'5" TE in the league ... and consider that he is still learning the position. He will get better every year. Consider what other players do in their off days. Graham's two loves are flying and community service. You never hear or see anything about him doing anything else. How many young people have the personal dedication to get a private pilots license? I know what it takes. My late father was a flight instructor. You have to go far and above to get one. I truly hope that once this is all over most people will understand what happened and appreciate what we have as Saints fans in Jimmy Graham. the-commish likes this.

07-02-2014, 06:03 PM	#4
spkb25 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 13,115	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's. I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag

07-02-2014, 06:46 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,489	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by spkb25 I think he was saying in 2 years, not now. He was saying if we pay him this year and next under the tag Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal. All this same talk was going around when Brees was tagged. Guess what? Loomis and the Saints came to terms with Brees' agent for a deal, while huge at the time, is nothing compared to what pedestrian QB's are and will be receiving since.

07-02-2014, 06:52 PM	#6
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,748	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Zero chance he takes the tag when he will get paid more on average over the next two years with a reasonable deal. That was my point exactly. saintfan and AliJee like this.

07-03-2014, 10:33 AM	#7
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido How can you say he is losing a step? You do know he played last season on an injured foot that has since healed and STILL led the league in TD's. Personally, I don't think the ruling will have much effect either way. They were probably very close to making a deal but were playing the game that the NFLPA and the league "requested" them play. Pretty sure he meant in 2 years when he is 30
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07-02-2014, 04:50 PM	#8
AliJee 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 267	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator I see him getting more than gronk ... He will become the highest paid TE. Burbanks arbitration report was spot on.

07-02-2014, 05:35 PM	#9
AliJee 100th Post Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Southern California Posts: 267	I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion. In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet. This way nobody feels "screwed over"

07-02-2014, 06:51 PM	#10
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,781	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AliJee I'm annoyed with all this stupid media stuff saying there's going to be trust issues with SP and JG cuz SP called him a TE, and SP is supposed to be a father figure, these guys are just blowing stupid things out of proportion. That's the media's job. It's the football equivalent to E! News. Honestly this is one of the reasons the Saints have so little National media coverage. There's no drama to discuss. In all honesty all these other unprofessional holdouts need to take a page out of how the Saints and JG have handled this whole situation. They've allowed the NFLPA and NFL do their job and set the market for him and now they will come to terms which will work out to the benefit of both parties. If the arbitration fell in his favor he wouldn't have complained just like nobody has heard him complain yet. This way nobody feels "screwed over" I'm in complete agreement. SFIAH

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