Graham designated TE by arbitrator

Danno · 07-02-2014, 12:18 PM

Uhh hey Mickey old pal,
Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table?
Sincerely,
Jimmy Sexton

papz · 07-02-2014, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Uhh hey Mickey old pal,
Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table?
Sincerely,
Jimmy Sexton

It probably is which is why they're still playing these stupid games. They would feel more pressure on their side if we just flat out said the contract is off the table and we're going to take it on a year to year basis. It'll clog up the franchise tag but from a business standpoint, makes a lot of sense on our end.

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Uhh hey Mickey old pal,
Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table?
Sincerely,
Jimmy Sexton

Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side.

Danno · 07-02-2014, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side.

It may have been a discussion on WWL with Detillier, who mentioned that figure was offered.

Could be false, could be true, I know I heard it or read it somewhere.

Probably one of those "sources say" tweets.

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

It may have been a discussion on WWL with Detillier, who mentioned that figure was offered.

Could be false, could be true, I know I heard it or read it somewhere.

Probably one of those "sources say" tweets.

That's all I have seen. Nothing that could be verified.

Jack Vegas · 07-02-2014, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side.

Larry Holder said in his blog before the season began the Saints had made an offer and were prepared to make him the NFL's highest-paid TE. It's reasonable to assume that's the $10 million range since Gronkowski is in the neighborhood of $9 million. Graham's camp didn't want to negotiate at the time, IIRC. Which is his right, but I'd say at this point it's looking like his agent has given him a lot of bad advice.

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 02:31 PM

Originally Posted by Jack Vegas

Larry Holder said in his blog before the season began the Saints had made an offer and were prepared to make him the NFL's highest-paid TE. It's reasonable to assume that's the $10 million range since Gronkowski is in the neighborhood of $9 million. Graham's camp didn't want to negotiate at the time, IIRC. Which is his right, but I'd say at this point it's looking like his agent has given him a lot of bad advice.

This is from a March 2014 article by Holder:

New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham receives franchise tag as a tight end

Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has been staunch about the team's view of Graham as a tight end. Graham didn't give an answer one way or the other on the issue when asked about the debate a few weeks ago.

"That's not for me to decide," Graham said Feb. 13. "I'm going to do, and I'm going to play, whatever I'm asked to do. It's that simple."

It's also interesting to note Graham's description of himself on his Twitter profile: "New Orleans Saints Tight End #80. Private Pilot."

Graham and the Saints have until July 15 to hammer out a long-term contract. If there's no long-term deal reached at the close of business July 15, Graham can then only play under the franchise tag with the Saints or sit out. The last day to sign a franchise tag tender is Nov. 11, the Tuesday after the 10th week of the season.

The Saints have offered Graham more than one long-term contract before reaching the franchise tag deadline, according to a league source, and the team is willing to make Graham the highest-paid tight end in the NFL. Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski currently holds the distinction after receiving a six-year dealing maxing out at $54 million two years ago.

This is the only mention I have found and it doesn't name a figure and is attributed to the ever present "league source" who could easily be full of crap.

The other highlighted sign supports what I have been saying all along in that Graham has not been the driver of this train.

st thomas · 07-02-2014, 04:58 PM

Originally Posted by Danno

Uhh hey Mickey old pal,
Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table?
Sincerely,
Jimmy Sexton

yea jimmy we'll see, now get on your knees an apologize you crook.

AsylumGuido · 07-02-2014, 05:13 PM

Originally Posted by st thomas

yea jimmy we'll see, now get on your knees an apologize you crook.

What does he have to apologize for?

voodooido · 07-02-2014, 12:36 PM

Yeah, I see a long term deal in the works now. He now knows he could play under the franchise next year as well. Expect something real soon.

07-02-2014, 12:18 PM	#1
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Uhh hey Mickey old pal, Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table? Sincerely, Jimmy Sexton jnormand, SapperSaint, SmashMouth and 4 others like this.

07-02-2014, 01:37 PM	#2
papz Problem? Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: New Orleans Posts: 11,768	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno Uhh hey Mickey old pal, Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table? Sincerely, Jimmy Sexton It probably is which is why they're still playing these stupid games. They would feel more pressure on their side if we just flat out said the contract is off the table and we're going to take it on a year to year basis. It'll clog up the franchise tag but from a business standpoint, makes a lot of sense on our end. spkb25 and SapperSaint like this.

07-02-2014, 01:42 PM	#3
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno Uhh hey Mickey old pal, Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table? Sincerely, Jimmy Sexton Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side.

07-02-2014, 02:00 PM	#4
Danno Truth Addict Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Spanish Fort, AL (via NO and B/R) Posts: 24,747	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side. It may have been a discussion on WWL with Detillier, who mentioned that figure was offered. Could be false, could be true, I know I heard it or read it somewhere. Probably one of those "sources say" tweets.

07-02-2014, 02:21 PM	#5
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno It may have been a discussion on WWL with Detillier, who mentioned that figure was offered. Could be false, could be true, I know I heard it or read it somewhere. Probably one of those "sources say" tweets. That's all I have seen. Nothing that could be verified.

07-02-2014, 02:01 PM	#6
Jack Vegas 1000 Posts + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 2,254	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by AsylumGuido Do you have any link that a $10M deal was ever offered. I have searched far and wide and have found nothing beyond conjecture. I seriously doubt that an official offer has ever been made by either side. Larry Holder said in his blog before the season began the Saints had made an offer and were prepared to make him the NFL's highest-paid TE. It's reasonable to assume that's the $10 million range since Gronkowski is in the neighborhood of $9 million. Graham's camp didn't want to negotiate at the time, IIRC. Which is his right, but I'd say at this point it's looking like his agent has given him a lot of bad advice.
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07-02-2014, 02:31 PM	#7
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Jack Vegas Larry Holder said in his blog before the season began the Saints had made an offer and were prepared to make him the NFL's highest-paid TE. It's reasonable to assume that's the $10 million range since Gronkowski is in the neighborhood of $9 million. Graham's camp didn't want to negotiate at the time, IIRC. Which is his right, but I'd say at this point it's looking like his agent has given him a lot of bad advice. This is from a March 2014 article by Holder: New Orleans Saints' Jimmy Graham receives franchise tag as a tight end Saints general manager Mickey Loomis has been staunch about the team's view of Graham as a tight end. Graham didn't give an answer one way or the other on the issue when asked about the debate a few weeks ago. "That's not for me to decide," Graham said Feb. 13. "I'm going to do, and I'm going to play, whatever I'm asked to do. It's that simple." It's also interesting to note Graham's description of himself on his Twitter profile: "New Orleans Saints Tight End #80. Private Pilot." Graham and the Saints have until July 15 to hammer out a long-term contract. If there's no long-term deal reached at the close of business July 15, Graham can then only play under the franchise tag with the Saints or sit out. The last day to sign a franchise tag tender is Nov. 11, the Tuesday after the 10th week of the season. The Saints have offered Graham more than one long-term contract before reaching the franchise tag deadline, according to a league source, and the team is willing to make Graham the highest-paid tight end in the NFL. Patriots tight end Rob Gronkowski currently holds the distinction after receiving a six-year dealing maxing out at $54 million two years ago. This is the only mention I have found and it doesn't name a figure and is attributed to the ever present "league source" who could easily be full of crap. The other highlighted sign supports what I have been saying all along in that Graham has not been the driver of this train.

07-02-2014, 04:58 PM	#8
st thomas Site Donor 2018 Join Date: Dec 2009 Location: lafayette Posts: 7,753	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by Danno Uhh hey Mickey old pal, Is that 10 million/year offer still on the table? Sincerely, Jimmy Sexton yea jimmy we'll see, now get on your knees an apologize you crook.

07-02-2014, 05:13 PM	#9
AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,472	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by st thomas yea jimmy we'll see, now get on your knees an apologize you crook. What does he have to apologize for? SaintFanInATLHELL and AliJee like this.

07-02-2014, 12:36 PM	#10
voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,819	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Yeah, I see a long term deal in the works now. He now knows he could play under the franchise next year as well. Expect something real soon.
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