Graham designated TE by arbitrator

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-03-2014, 09:56 AM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

That was great. You should do my taxes bro. I might be a rich man

Im still puzzled how the cap really works and the loop holes to get through them.

I posted a detailed example of a potential JG contract about 3 weeks ago. You can read it here:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/66411...tml#post597157

The cap really isn't that difficult to understand. Bonuses are divided evenly over the life of the contract. Salary is paid yearly. The cap number is the sum of the bonus part and the salary part. Bonus is guaranteed. Salary is not. The remaining bonus becomes "immediately" due if the player is cut.

So to Guido's example. A $24 million signing bonus over 6 years counts $4 million a year against the cap. With a $24 million check in hand, JG would be happy to take a $1 million salary for the first year. So the cap number is $1+$4 million = $5 million. But JG gets a $24 million check when he signs.

Now the cap number the last 3 years of the contract may be $12/$15/$18 million/year because the salary increases to $8/$11/$14 million/year by the end. But then you can renegotiate, cut another bonus check, and spread out the cap number by extending the contract. Or if the player isn't productive simply cut them and eat the remaining bonus money which at that point is a lot less than the cap number with the inflated salary.

Trust me that both sides are motivated to get a long term deal done by next week. JG wants his big contract and big bonus check now, while the Saints want the cap relief of the long term contract.

That's the reason that it'll get done.

SFIAH

B_Dub_Saint · 07-03-2014, 01:28 PM

Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions.

Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags?

Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL

I posted a detailed example of a potential JG contract about 3 weeks ago. You can read it here:

http://blackandgold.com/saints/66411...tml#post597157

The cap really isn't that difficult to understand. Bonuses are divided evenly over the life of the contract. Salary is paid yearly. The cap number is the sum of the bonus part and the salary part. Bonus is guaranteed. Salary is not. The remaining bonus becomes "immediately" due if the player is cut.

So to Guido's example. A $24 million signing bonus over 6 years counts $4 million a year against the cap. With a $24 million check in hand, JG would be happy to take a $1 million salary for the first year. So the cap number is $1+$4 million = $5 million. But JG gets a $24 million check when he signs.

Now the cap number the last 3 years of the contract may be $12/$15/$18 million/year because the salary increases to $8/$11/$14 million/year by the end. But then you can renegotiate, cut another bonus check, and spread out the cap number by extending the contract. Or if the player isn't productive simply cut them and eat the remaining bonus money which at that point is a lot less than the cap number with the inflated salary.

Trust me that both sides are motivated to get a long term deal done by next week. JG wants his big contract and big bonus check now, while the Saints want the cap relief of the long term contract.

That's the reason that it'll get done.

SFIAH

jnormand · 07-03-2014, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions.

Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags?

Easy. Wouldn't you be a jealous douchenozzle if you had Matty Skid Britches behind center throwing to Shoddy **** Talker and a cry baby coach all while being annual underachievers?

SaintFanInATLHELL · 07-03-2014, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions.

You are quite welcome.

Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags?

I gave up on this one a long time ago. It's a waste of time to even try...

SFIAH

Seer1 · 07-03-2014, 03:09 PM

Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint

Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions.

Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags?

Wanting what we have -a ring, a good team, a good coach, great fans is really not a mystery.

07-03-2014, 09:56 AM	#1
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint That was great. You should do my taxes bro. I might be a rich man Im still puzzled how the cap really works and the loop holes to get through them. I posted a detailed example of a potential JG contract about 3 weeks ago. You can read it here: http://blackandgold.com/saints/66411...tml#post597157 The cap really isn't that difficult to understand. Bonuses are divided evenly over the life of the contract. Salary is paid yearly. The cap number is the sum of the bonus part and the salary part. Bonus is guaranteed. Salary is not. The remaining bonus becomes "immediately" due if the player is cut. So to Guido's example. A $24 million signing bonus over 6 years counts $4 million a year against the cap. With a $24 million check in hand, JG would be happy to take a $1 million salary for the first year. So the cap number is $1+$4 million = $5 million. But JG gets a $24 million check when he signs. Now the cap number the last 3 years of the contract may be $12/$15/$18 million/year because the salary increases to $8/$11/$14 million/year by the end. But then you can renegotiate, cut another bonus check, and spread out the cap number by extending the contract. Or if the player isn't productive simply cut them and eat the remaining bonus money which at that point is a lot less than the cap number with the inflated salary. Trust me that both sides are motivated to get a long term deal done by next week. JG wants his big contract and big bonus check now, while the Saints want the cap relief of the long term contract. That's the reason that it'll get done. SFIAH B_Dub_Saint likes this.
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07-03-2014, 01:28 PM	#2
B_Dub_Saint 1000 Posts + Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Lafayette, LA Posts: 2,345 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions. Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags? Originally Posted by SaintFanInATLHELL I posted a detailed example of a potential JG contract about 3 weeks ago. You can read it here: http://blackandgold.com/saints/66411...tml#post597157 The cap really isn't that difficult to understand. Bonuses are divided evenly over the life of the contract. Salary is paid yearly. The cap number is the sum of the bonus part and the salary part. Bonus is guaranteed. Salary is not. The remaining bonus becomes "immediately" due if the player is cut. So to Guido's example. A $24 million signing bonus over 6 years counts $4 million a year against the cap. With a $24 million check in hand, JG would be happy to take a $1 million salary for the first year. So the cap number is $1+$4 million = $5 million. But JG gets a $24 million check when he signs. Now the cap number the last 3 years of the contract may be $12/$15/$18 million/year because the salary increases to $8/$11/$14 million/year by the end. But then you can renegotiate, cut another bonus check, and spread out the cap number by extending the contract. Or if the player isn't productive simply cut them and eat the remaining bonus money which at that point is a lot less than the cap number with the inflated salary. Trust me that both sides are motivated to get a long term deal done by next week. JG wants his big contract and big bonus check now, while the Saints want the cap relief of the long term contract. That's the reason that it'll get done. SFIAH

07-03-2014, 02:06 PM	#3
jnormand 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: The Free State of Idaho Posts: 5,781	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions. Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags? Easy. Wouldn't you be a jealous douchenozzle if you had Matty Skid Britches behind center throwing to Shoddy **** Talker and a cry baby coach all while being annual underachievers? SaintFanInATLHELL and B_Dub_Saint like this.

07-03-2014, 02:21 PM	#4
SaintFanInATLHELL The Professor Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Lithonia, GA Posts: 2,787	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions. You are quite welcome. Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags? I gave up on this one a long time ago. It's a waste of time to even try... SFIAH

07-03-2014, 03:09 PM	#5
Seer1 Site Donor Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bayou Bayfield CO Posts: 4,722	Re: Graham designated TE by arbitrator Originally Posted by B_Dub_Saint Very well put sir. That pretty much answers all of my questions. Now I have a real brain buster for you, ready, why can't the failclown fans stop being jealous douche bags? Wanting what we have -a ring, a good team, a good coach, great fans is really not a mystery.

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