If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract

halloween 65 · 07-10-2014, 10:06 PM

If I were Loomis, good question: Sign and trade would be my first option. Play for tag money next. Personally a sign and trade for draft picks would be good with me. Thanks for the question.

AsylumGuido · 07-11-2014, 07:40 AM

Originally Posted by halloween 65

If I were Loomis, good question: Sign and trade would be my first option. Play for tag money next. Personally a sign and trade for draft picks would be good with me. Thanks for the question.

Thank God you're not Loomis.

hagan714 · 07-11-2014, 01:22 PM

ok i get your point

Jimmy suxs as a TE.
Jimmy suxs as a WR

He excels in the middle of the two.

their is your contract range.

7 mill vs 11 mill

9 mill a year it is

Then again i should come out cheaper just to tag him this year and next.

AliJee · 07-11-2014, 08:34 PM

Sign our best asset, trade him for unknown commodities and take the cap hit? No no noooo

The Dude · 07-11-2014, 09:06 PM

I would stand pat right where I was and if doesn't sign so be it. We wont have as much cap work to do next year when Jordan and Hicks want money. Jordan is going to command a top salary and deservedly so.

AsylumGuido · 07-12-2014, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by The Dude

I would stand pat right where I was and if doesn't sign so be it. We wont have as much cap work to do next year when Jordan and Hicks want money. Jordan is going to command a top salary and deservedly so.

The cap will not be an issue at all next year. It will be increasing by approximately $10 million and any deal Loomis makes with Jordan and Hicks will have a minimal hit in years one and two. It will also be about time to extend Brees' deal, thus freeing up additional cap. We are in very good shape moving forward.

The Dude · 07-14-2014, 09:57 AM

Originally Posted by AsylumGuido

The cap will not be an issue at all next year. It will be increasing by approximately $10 million and any deal Loomis makes with Jordan and Hicks will have a minimal hit in years one and two. It will also be about time to extend Brees' deal, thus freeing up additional cap. We are in very good shape moving forward.

That's good to hear. I had no idea. To hear some people tell it we are screwed cap wise until Bree's and others contracts are up. Good news because I think both Hicks and Jordan will ball this year and earn big paydays.

ScottF · 07-12-2014, 04:06 PM

So we are at t minus 72 hours until the 7/15 3pm deadline.
No appeal yet from JG and his straight from hell agent.

Are they going to appeal in the 11th hour?
Is Jimmy going to sign and be come the highest paid TE, and be happy about it?
Or, is he going to play under the tag?

Actual question for the smarter members of the group: if JG plays under the 1 year tag, when can we start negotiating again?

AsylumGuido · 07-12-2014, 05:57 PM

Originally Posted by ScottF

So we are at t minus 72 hours until the 7/15 3pm deadline.
No appeal yet from JG and his straight from hell agent.

Are they going to appeal in the 11th hour?
Is Jimmy going to sign and be come the highest paid TE, and be happy about it?
Or, is he going to play under the tag?

Actual question for the smarter members of the group: if JG plays under the 1 year tag, when can we start negotiating again?

After July 15, the Graham can only sign a one-year deal with Saints if nothing has been done at that point. It can be can contain any number of terms, but it cannot be for longer than one year.

If he does sign the tag then you can start negotiating for the following year immediately, but you cannot have any deal effective until the one year deal is completed.

voodooido · 07-14-2014, 11:53 AM

I could see a 3 year 10 mil a year.

07-10-2014, 10:06 PM	#1
halloween 65 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Grand Haven, Michigan by way of a little Mississippi River town in Louisiana Posts: 5,893	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract If I were Loomis, good question: Sign and trade would be my first option. Play for tag money next. Personally a sign and trade for draft picks would be good with me. Thanks for the question.

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,553	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract Originally Posted by halloween 65 If I were Loomis, good question: Sign and trade would be my first option. Play for tag money next. Personally a sign and trade for draft picks would be good with me. Thanks for the question. Thank God you're not Loomis.

07-11-2014, 01:22 PM	#3
hagan714 LB Mentallity Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 68	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract ok i get your point Jimmy suxs as a TE. Jimmy suxs as a WR He excels in the middle of the two. their is your contract range. 7 mill vs 11 mill 9 mill a year it is Then again i should come out cheaper just to tag him this year and next. saintsfan1976 and halloween 65 like this.
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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,553	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract Originally Posted by The Dude I would stand pat right where I was and if doesn't sign so be it. We wont have as much cap work to do next year when Jordan and Hicks want money. Jordan is going to command a top salary and deservedly so. The cap will not be an issue at all next year. It will be increasing by approximately $10 million and any deal Loomis makes with Jordan and Hicks will have a minimal hit in years one and two. It will also be about time to extend Brees' deal, thus freeing up additional cap. We are in very good shape moving forward.

07-14-2014, 09:57 AM	#7
The Dude 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 9,055	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract Originally Posted by AsylumGuido The cap will not be an issue at all next year. It will be increasing by approximately $10 million and any deal Loomis makes with Jordan and Hicks will have a minimal hit in years one and two. It will also be about time to extend Brees' deal, thus freeing up additional cap. We are in very good shape moving forward. That's good to hear. I had no idea. To hear some people tell it we are screwed cap wise until Bree's and others contracts are up. Good news because I think both Hicks and Jordan will ball this year and earn big paydays.
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ScottF 5000 POSTS! + Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,324	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract So we are at t minus 72 hours until the 7/15 3pm deadline. No appeal yet from JG and his straight from hell agent. Are they going to appeal in the 11th hour? Is Jimmy going to sign and be come the highest paid TE, and be happy about it? Or, is he going to play under the tag? Actual question for the smarter members of the group: if JG plays under the 1 year tag, when can we start negotiating again?

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AsylumGuido 10000 POST CLUB Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Bossier City, LA Posts: 26,553	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract Originally Posted by ScottF So we are at t minus 72 hours until the 7/15 3pm deadline. No appeal yet from JG and his straight from hell agent. Are they going to appeal in the 11th hour? Is Jimmy going to sign and be come the highest paid TE, and be happy about it? Or, is he going to play under the tag? Actual question for the smarter members of the group: if JG plays under the 1 year tag, when can we start negotiating again? After July 15, the Graham can only sign a one-year deal with Saints if nothing has been done at that point. It can be can contain any number of terms, but it cannot be for longer than one year. If he does sign the tag then you can start negotiating for the following year immediately, but you cannot have any deal effective until the one year deal is completed. ScottF likes this.
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voodooido 1000 Posts + Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 2,827	Re: If you were Loomis writing Graham's contract I could see a 3 year 10 mil a year.
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