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WhoDat!656 07-16-2014 06:43 PM

Revisiting Seattle: When the Saints Nearly Broke the Legion of Boom
 
“They beat us,” a friend of mine says. He’s sitting across from me outside the CC’s on Esplanade. “They outplayed us and beat us. But if they say they weren’t worried, they’re full of ****.” He drinks his iced coffee. “That insane Seattle weather clears up. Our strategy has worn their D down a little. Suddenly we’re off. Boom! Boom! Boom! Right down the field.” He mimes rapid-fire Drew Brees passes with one hand.

“The stadium goes completely silent twice,” he continues. “Boom, boom, touchdown, and then the two point conversion shut them the hell up for the first time the entire game. The second time was when we recovered the onsides kick. They couldn’t believe it.” He rests his hands on the top of his head, mimicking the anxiety of a Seattle fan who watched the game from a nearby seat at CenturyLink Field. “This Seattle fan stands there and says, ‘This can’t be happening.’”

My friend smiles. “Yeah. They were worried. I hope we get them in the Dome this year in the playoffs. Because we will destroy them.”

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Danno 07-16-2014 06:46 PM

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We'll kill 'em in the dome, I have no doubt.

AsylumGuido 07-16-2014 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Danno (Post 599837)
We'll kill 'em in the dome, I have no doubt.

Up one side and down the other.

WhoDat!656 07-16-2014 07:05 PM

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"Up one side and down the other."

Audiotom 07-16-2014 07:22 PM

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the refs seem to throw more PIs in the dome for some reason

I recall Colston getting mobbed in the first drive vs the Panthers
huge boos rang out

after that the refs were calling it

not only our offense came alive
our defense kept us in the Seattle game

two beast mode runs and that third down spectacular catch were enough

we learned a lot in that game and were much more prepared going in
I hate seeing weather being such a big factor

we will be ready in 2014 here or there

I'll take either and bus fare to Arizona

Audiotom 07-16-2014 07:59 PM

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too many what ifs

we came up short

we came down to the last play

lot to learn from

QBREES9 07-16-2014 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 599848)
too many what ifs

we came up short

we came down to the last play

lot to learn from

Learn and move on.

NonieT 07-16-2014 08:32 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by WhoDat!656 (Post 599835)
“They beat us,” a friend of mine says. He’s sitting across from me outside the CC’s on Esplanade. “They outplayed us and beat us. But if they say they weren’t worried, they’re full of ****.” He drinks his iced coffee. “That insane Seattle weather clears up. Our strategy has worn their D down a little. Suddenly we’re off. Boom! Boom! Boom! Right down the field.” He mimes rapid-fire Drew Brees passes with one hand.

“The stadium goes completely silent twice,” he continues. “Boom, boom, touchdown, and then the two point conversion shut them the hell up for the first time the entire game. The second time was when we recovered the onsides kick. They couldn’t believe it.” He rests his hands on the top of his head, mimicking the anxiety of a Seattle fan who watched the game from a nearby seat at CenturyLink Field. “This Seattle fan stands there and says, ‘This can’t be happening.’”

My friend smiles. “Yeah. They were worried. I hope we get them in the Dome this year in the playoffs. Because we will destroy them.”

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If the weather is better, we might destroy them at Centurylink Field. Now wouldn't that be sweet?

hagan714 07-16-2014 09:18 PM

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down the stretch when it mattered most

the defense failed:

with 3:36 left to play

01:11 from SEA 38 in 4 plays covering 62 Touchdown

M.Lynch left end for 31 yards, TOUCHDOWN. :annoyed:

lynch has open field all the way to the end zone

that was the back breaker. when Roy Boy can win games like this then i will be happy. till then it is a replay of cowgirl blue print of years gone bye

Roy Boy failed at the end of the game. my #1 concern with his hiring, closing out big games.

3 Qrts with a score ? unforgivable no matter the defense you face

matters not is Colston was told to do a flee flicker at the end of the game instead of stepping out.
Playoff football 3s are huge on the road. SP must get this through his head. They aint pretty but they give you a chance to win in the end

Utah_Saint 07-16-2014 10:58 PM

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The Seahawks were the better team and deserved to win.

That being said, Colston owned the Legion of Talk in the second half and Robinson and Ingram were running the ball well. They only lost by 8 and were driving when time ran out. Nothing to be ashamed of.

This season the Saints defense should be better with Byrd and Robinson. This will be the second year in Ryan's system.

The Saints offense should be better too. Stills should get more involved and Cook gives Payton a new toy to pull defenders around the field.

This season they play in the Dome. I like the Saints chances.

halloween 65 07-17-2014 08:56 AM

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As of right now they own us, until we beat them. You got to admit they are a good team with good players. Can we beat them? I feel we can but we better get alot tougher.

saintsfan1976 07-17-2014 09:06 AM

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When Jimmy scores in the Dome on Seattle I'm throwing this on the field.

F those skittles.

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Jack Vegas 07-17-2014 10:11 AM

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This is a dumb cheerleading story. Yeah, we probably did just run out of time, but you know what, we were playing from behind literally the entire game.

Let's give Seattle their just respect, they beat us and a bunch of other tough teams and they won the Super Bowl. We've been in their shoes, with Vikings fans and others whining about how the 09 team didn't deserve to win. Let's be better than that, I say.

Audiotom 07-17-2014 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 599892)
This is a dumb cheerleading story. Yeah, we probably did just run out of time, but you know what, we were playing from behind literally the entire game.

Let's give Seattle their just respect, they beat us and a bunch of other tough teams and they won the Super Bowl. We've been in their shoes, with Vikings fans and others whining about how the 09 team didn't deserve to win. Let's be better than that, I say.

just take pride that we game them a fight in the second half and are hungry to see them again

the what ifs sound pathetic

we played them a lot harder than the unstoppable Broncos

Seahawks12th 07-17-2014 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Audiotom (Post 599896)
just take pride that we game them a fight in the second half and are hungry to see them again

the what ifs sound pathetic

we played them a lot harder than the unstoppable Broncos

Yes and your team was just as physical as the Niners. Bush brought the pain to Tate and Harvin. The first time the Hawks played the Saints I thought your team was soft. The reality is only a couple of changes is sometimes all it takes. Clemons was in Brees face all game long the first game and the second time around he went against Armstead and was shut down in the passing game. Brees had a lot more time to throw but the weather was absolutely atrocious and favored a run heavy attack vs a pass oriented attack.

This year the Saints running game has improved and I think your team can run jumbo sets and be a smash mouth team which wasn't necessarily there last year during the regular season. Cooks is an interesting piece but until I see him (or any rookie) perform on the field it is all hype. Even without Cook, the Saints are much more physical than last year.

Defensively not much has changed except for Byrd and your secondary may be more physical with two of the more physical safeties in the league. Your turnover ratio should be much higher. The only person I don't like in your secondary is Champ. This in itself will make your team much more battle tested against more physical teams. The part of your schedule which will define your season is the stretch of Green Bay, @Carolina, San Francisco, Cincinnati, Baltimore, @Pittsburgh and Carolina. WOW, that is a tough stretch.

As for the Hawks, we have question marks on the D-Line and right tackle and that is about it. We really didn't lose a lot of field production that can't be replaced but what we did lose was leadership which is a tangible which can't really be measured. We have a lot of players who have been paid who are getting a lot of celebrity attention all while being gunned for by everybody. I can see why it is so difficult to repeat. So a lot will depend on how hungry the team is if it is to have any shot of a repeat.

Danno 07-17-2014 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 599902)
Yes and your team was just as physical as the Niners. Bush brought the pain to Tate and Harvin. The first time the Hawks played the Saints I thought your team was soft. The reality is only a couple of changes is sometimes all it takes. Clemons was in Brees face all game long the first game and the second time around he went against Armstead and was shut down in the passing game. Brees had a lot more time to throw but the weather was absolutely atrocious and favored a run heavy attack vs a pass oriented attack.

This year the Saints running game has improved and I think your team can run jumbo sets and be a smash mouth team which wasn't necessarily there last year during the regular season. Cooks is an interesting piece but until I see him (or any rookie) perform on the field it is all hype. Even without Cook, the Saints are much more physical than last year.

Defensively not much has changed except for Byrd and your secondary may be more physical with two of the more physical safeties in the league. Your turnover ratio should be much higher. The only person I don't like in your secondary is Champ. This in itself will make your team much more battle tested against more physical teams. The part of your schedule which will define your season is the stretch of Green Bay, @Carolina, San Francisco, Cincinnati, Baltimore, @Pittsburgh and Carolina. WOW, that is a tough stretch.

As for the Hawks, we have question marks on the D-Line and right tackle and that is about it. We really didn't lose a lot of field production that can't be replaced but what we did lose was leadership which is a tangible which can't really be measured. We have a lot of players who have been paid who are getting a lot of celebrity attention all while being gunned for by everybody. I can see why it is so difficult to repeat. So a lot will depend on how hungry the team is if it is to have any shot of a repeat.

You can't stress enough how you guys are now the hunted. Every team you play will consider it the equivalent of a playoff game.

With the jackass behavior of several of your players, opposing fans will be as pumped as a playoff game.

Your team is still the best in the league talent wise, but I can see you guys finishing in the 10-12 win range just because of the jackasses you have on your team. Karma is a b1tch and that b1thch is zeroing in on your thugass dungbags.

I lost all respect for your team last year and frankly I hope you get your asses handed to you every game, even by San Fran and Carolina, which is saying a lot because I despise those teams as much as any team not named the Falcons.

In fact, I may even root for the dirty birds over your low-class thugs.

Its a shame because I was a huge Seattle fans several years ago.

Audiotom 07-17-2014 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 599902)
Yes and your team was just as physical as the Niners. Bush brought the pain to Tate and Harvin. The first time the Hawks played the Saints I thought your team was soft. The reality is only a couple of changes is sometimes all it takes. Clemons was in Brees face all game long the first game and the second time around he went against Armstead and was shut down in the passing game. Brees had a lot more time to throw but the weather was absolutely atrocious and favored a run heavy attack vs a pass oriented attack.

This year the Saints running game has improved and I think your team can run jumbo sets and be a smash mouth team which wasn't necessarily there last year during the regular season. Cooks is an interesting piece but until I see him (or any rookie) perform on the field it is all hype. Even without Cook, the Saints are much more physical than last year.

Defensively not much has changed except for Byrd and your secondary may be more physical with two of the more physical safeties in the league. Your turnover ratio should be much higher.

Seahawks12

I really enjoy your perspective., not the typical polarizing fan boy

Our defense held Seattle in check with a lot of three and outs
That last drive was a beast mode killer

I wouldn't say not much has changed
Vicarro is back, Byrd and a lor of people coming back from injuries
You are right - we need more takeaways
But hard to do that when you are going 3 and out

I appreciate your comments on our team's improvements from the mid season seahawk fiasco to the playoffs

One area was Drew handling the crowd noise and doing a better job of simplifying audibles

Look forward to seeing you in the playoffs
Your house or ours

hennr 07-17-2014 09:05 PM

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all i recall is refs beat Saints not sea chicks

Seer1 07-18-2014 09:35 AM

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Football's neither hand grenades or horse shoes. We're owned until we make it otherwise.

Audiotom 07-18-2014 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by hennr (Post 599936)
all i recall is refs beat Saints not sea chicks

that holding call to kill a late inside the 20 drive was complete bunk

Mardigras9 07-18-2014 02:05 PM

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It's really as simple as home field. Whomever holds the #1 can run the table. SH12 is right though, that is a tough stretch for us.

TheGambler 07-18-2014 04:04 PM

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People should quit assuming that we're going to get HFA. We've been 10-6 and had a #2 seed, and we've been 11-5 (twice) and had a #5 seed. We've been 13-3 and had HFA, and we've also been 13-3 and hosted a wildcard game at home. HFA depends just as much on other teams as it does how many games we win.

Rugby Saint II 07-18-2014 04:48 PM

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We don't need HFA to win it all............but it helps.

hennr 07-18-2014 07:05 PM

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all year sea cluks allowed to cheat by mugging all the teams they played wrs. tes .etc.everyone knows sea punks old rogers prefer team in superbowl.the one play lance did very minor push off to catch pass it looked like the refs almost broke arms to throw flags what a joke.Fair refs saints easy win.same for pattsys game you could show tackle holding junior kneck in choke hold an also by waist band of junior on brady last sec td pass,as a training film for refs when to throw flag.if flag thrown as should have been plus several other strange calls game over saints win an at home for playoffs nope old roger shafted the team all year long.:broccoli::jester::pissed:

Jack Vegas 07-18-2014 07:42 PM

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Can't blame Seattle if the refs look the other way. The thing is, we can play the same game. Our secondary is plenty physical too, and having Byrd on the back end of the defense is going to free up all the other DB's to get even more aggressive and knock around those WR's on the line of scrimmage.

hennr 07-18-2014 09:04 PM

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Point is if saints secondary played like sea chicks refs would have wore out themselfs throwing flags.Think when bush tryed 15yard flag.

The Dude 07-18-2014 10:41 PM

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year in year out since Payton arrived there has not been a team in the NFL that we could not go toe to toe with in the dome. Even the Super Bowl champions over the last decade.

halloween 65 07-18-2014 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Jack Vegas (Post 600073)
Can't blame Seattle if the refs look the other way. The thing is, we can play the same game. Our secondary is plenty physical too, and having Byrd on the back end of the defense is going to free up all the other DB's to get even more aggressive and knock around those WR's on the line of scrimmage.

Your exactly right!! I believe we have a very hard hitting secondary now, with turnover potential.

hennr 07-18-2014 11:02 PM

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yes an also on the road if the playing field is even.Never underestimate the REFS an flags.saints were off to hot start last year when i think teams were told with a wink an nod its ok to mugg jimmmy think about if the other team has to play within normal rules jimmy was un stopable.what old roger to do have to stop Saints having home field thru out play offs.Jimmy at 6-6/270 an 4.5 sd very hard to even slow down if your secondary have to play normal an if you double or triple team him like some teams did then you open up other options for Brees.

The Dude 07-18-2014 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by halloween 65 (Post 600080)
Your exactly right!! I believe we have a very hard hitting secondary now, with turnover potential.

It all depends on Byrds injury. If it lingers then production will drop. Vaccaro should be even better though. If Byrd can start at 100% some people are gonna get waylayed.

hennr 07-18-2014 11:07 PM

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Thats why payton went to robinson an ingram with power run game as he had to do something an yes refs tryed to let peagles win in playoff road game Saints jus t to strong to throw game

billyt81 07-18-2014 11:43 PM

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Wow props to that Seahawks fan. Pretty honest evaluation of a hated rival. Well I hate the Seahawks. Anyway Falcons fans can't stop talking about Bounty Gate, how Brees is really a terrible guy. WHAT! And that's when they're not self proclaiming themselves as NFL elites. Here's to watching Khiry Robinson rush for 150+ vs Hawks in the playoffs.

saintsfan1976 07-19-2014 07:42 AM

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Anyone here recall the South Park character - Tweek?

brees84 07-19-2014 08:56 AM

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Our DBs proved they can be physical. Home game vs Carolina. Vaccaro, Lewis and others delivered some serious punishment.

Vrillon82 07-19-2014 09:55 AM

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That what burns my ass about Seattle, get a bunch of tough opponents at home all season, draw them up in the playoffs, one of them wasnt ****, the other out played them and still lost, then draw up a team in the SB that had no business there.

Problem? They couldnt win tough games on the road, I think the only tough one they had they lost.

saintsfan1976 07-19-2014 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Vrillon82 (Post 600130)
That what burns my ass about Seattle, get a bunch of tough opponents at home all season, draw them up in the playoffs, one of them wasnt ****, the other out played them and still lost, then draw up a team in the SB that had no business there.

Problem? They couldnt win tough games on the road, I think the only tough one they had they lost.

A few key plays and Seattle would have been a road playoff team that year too.

Seahawks12th 07-19-2014 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by hennr (Post 600071)
all year sea cluks allowed to cheat by mugging all the teams they played wrs. tes .etc.everyone knows sea punks old rogers prefer team in superbowl.the one play lance did very minor push off to catch pass it looked like the refs almost broke arms to throw flags what a joke.Fair refs saints easy win.same for pattsys game you could show tackle holding junior kneck in choke hold an also by waist band of junior on brady last sec td pass,as a training film for refs when to throw flag.if flag thrown as should have been plus several other strange calls game over saints win an at home for playoffs nope old roger shafted the team all year long.:broccoli::jester::pissed:

I hate to say this but the head of officiating tweeted that the Hawks aren't even being looked at by the league for holding or grabbing, basically implying the Hawks are clean and other teams are the repeat offenders. Those waiting for a flag are going to be waiting a looooooong time. Not sure why people perpetuate this rumor but carry on.

Danno 07-19-2014 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 600154)
I hate to say this but the head of officiating tweeted that the Hawks aren't even being looked at by the league for holding or grabbing, basically implying the Hawks are clean and other teams are the repeat offenders. Those waiting for a flag are going to be waiting a looooooong time. Not sur why people perpetuate this rumor but carry on.

People perpetrate it because its true. When multiple teams and multiple analyst comment about how the Seahawks amazingly get away with it, it isn't some unfounded fan-whine.

Maybe its payback for the Seahawks getting prison-raped by the zebras against the Steelers in the Superbowl several years ago. Either way I hope they start calling it fairly from now on. Oh, and I hope your jackass thug DB's get exactly what they deserve.

hennr 07-19-2014 05:41 PM

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YEP it is true REFs did not look at sea chicks they thro a few flags but if you look at film the refs could have thrown a flag on every down on sea chickns only that would have stoped the bull Sht they get by with.Think about last year drew trying to draw other team off sides ref throw 3 flags the 3rd time Drew did it to shame refs to prove point.Its a wonder saints did as well as they did last year considering every game zebras gunning for saints.12th man saints true champs in NFC.:censored:

Utah_Saint 07-19-2014 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Seahawks12th (Post 600154)
I hate to say this but the head of officiating tweeted that the Hawks aren't even being looked at by the league for holding or grabbing, basically implying the Hawks are clean and other teams are the repeat offenders. Those waiting for a flag are going to be waiting a looooooong time. Not sure why people perpetuate this rumor but carry on.

It's not going to be a long time. The NFL rules committee announced they were going to crack down on defensive holding, illegal contact and pass interference this season.

Mike Pereira made that tweet about the hawks not being looked at, when he was reporting on the rules committee meetings. There was no implication that the Seahawks were clean only that none of he examples given during the meeting were of the Seahawks.

Is NFL planning to get tighter on defensive holding and illegal contact? | Seahawks Blog | Seattle Times


In fact Mike Pereira agrees the Seahawks do hold and get away with it.

The Seattle Seahawks—the favorites to make the Super Bowl out of the NFC—employ an exasperating defensive game plan: They blitz rarely and drop an army of defenders into pass coverage. And those defenders mug, obstruct and foul opposing receivers on practically every play.

Quietly, the Seahawks have achieved a 13-3 record and home-field advantage throughout the NFC playoffs by exploiting a loophole: NFL referees are reluctant to throw endless flags for pass interference and defensive holding, even if defenses deserve them.

"They look at it and say, 'We may get called for one but not 10,'" said Mike Pereira, a former NFL vice president of officiating who is now a Fox analyst.


The Seattle Seahawks Defense Relies on a Brazen Tactic: Rampant Interference - WSJ


It's not just people perpetuating the "rumor", it's generally accepted by the major sports news outlets.

Secret Dance of Pass Interference - Flem File - ESPN

Kevin Gilbride: Seahawks have perfected art of pass interference - CBSSports.com

There are dozens more stories by smaller sports media sites and bloggers.

That's probably why people perpetuate the story.


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